Flame Posted October 5, 2005 Report Share Posted October 5, 2005 What are this double ((1D)) 1♥ (1NT) P(P) D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted October 5, 2005 Report Share Posted October 5, 2005 Take-out, extras, 3523 shape, possibly 4513 with a poor spade suit, or 3514 where a 1♥ overcall is better than double. 13 good to 17 hcp. Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Posted October 5, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2005 Does it matter if it was (1♦) 1♥ (1NT) P(2♦) D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted October 5, 2005 Report Share Posted October 5, 2005 Does it matter if it was (1♦) 1♥ (1NT) P(2♦) D No, still take-out. A good rule of thumb is: A double is for take-out if partner is a passed hand (or didn't bid yet), there are at least 2 unbid suits, and the level is not beyond 4♥. Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted October 5, 2005 Report Share Posted October 5, 2005 Takeout. Generally five hearts, four spades, but could be five/six hearts, three spades. Also clealry a tolerance for clubs. I am somewhat less sure about the "extras" than Roland, but surely this is not minimum... but there is a difference in my mind between "extras" and "not minimum"....so sound minimum or better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted October 5, 2005 Report Share Posted October 5, 2005 agree with roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted October 5, 2005 Report Share Posted October 5, 2005 I don't entirely agree with Roland.1D 1H 1NT P 2D x is take-out, yes, and typical shapes would be 4513 / 3613/ 3523. However, I think 1D 1H 1NT P P x just shows a good hand, it doesn't have to be take-out shape. I would generally expect partner to pass and lead a heart unless he has suprising distribution or (possibly) extra values. I play a style where something like Ax AKQxxx Kxx xx would overcall 1H on the first round. I'd double 1NT on that hand, and not be pleased if partner bid 2S. I don't really expect to defend 1NTx because someone is likely to bid diamonds, but it's nice to get my strength over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted October 5, 2005 Report Share Posted October 5, 2005 I play a style where something like Ax AKQxxx Kxx xx would overcall 1H on the first round. I'd double 1NT on that hand, and not be pleased if partner bid 2S. I wouldn't double with that hand, simply rebid hearts. Then double is always free to show take-out shape. Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trpltrbl Posted October 5, 2005 Report Share Posted October 5, 2005 Take Out. GBB :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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