Sue601 Posted October 2, 2005 Report Share Posted October 2, 2005 Can this hand be made? This beginner hasn't found a way. Using Fred Gitelman's SAYC tutorial for beginners.This hand seems to me a "text book" preempt response (6-10 pts, long trump support, void or singleton). Bidding: South as dealer1H (P) 4H (All Pass) North 7 2 K 10 9 5 4 7 J 10 8 6 2 West EastQ 6 5 3 A K 9 8J 7 2K 9 6 3 2 A J 8 5 4A 7 9 5 4 South J 10 4 A Q 8 6 3 Q 10 K Q 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted October 2, 2005 Report Share Posted October 2, 2005 No it can't, youre off 2 spades, 1 club and 1 diamond. EW can make FIVE spades though :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted October 2, 2005 Report Share Posted October 2, 2005 4H doesn't make but the 4H bidder did well - as Justin pointed out the opposition have a spade game they didn't find - one of the reasons to make this preemptive bid - make it hard for the opposition to know the correct thing to do. Winston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheoKole Posted October 2, 2005 Report Share Posted October 2, 2005 The hand can't be made unless the defense doesn't take one of their spade or diamond tricks, if not at least the diamond losers will go away on the clubs. Against good defenders this is unlikely to happen because they will signal effectively (however I have seen many stranger things happen than defenders helping to make an impossible game :) ). The reason for the preemptive bid is two-fold, one is that with a different distribution of the cards between you and partner a game may be cold. The second reason as Justin pointed out is that you can jam the opponents auction where they do not find their cold spade game and in this case even escape undoubled. -50 or -100 is much better than -450 or -650 in this case depending on vulnerability. Because you have limited high card points (6-10) and a good trump fit (at least 4 cards, VERY IMPORTANT), you can do this because your trump length will protect you from large penalties. Your partner should not bid on unless he has a mountain of a hand (probably just short of a 2 club opening). Theo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue601 Posted October 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2005 Oops....sorry for my poor formatting....I'll have to take time from Bridge study to studying posting hands, I'm afraid. And thanks for the responses.... Sue in Virginia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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