nickf Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 I'd like to encourage you go to: Bridge is Cool video Am i just an uncool 41-year old or does everyone else cringe as well? But more importantly, will this video be a successful vehicle for encouraging its target market (15-25 year old wannabe gangsta rappers I guess) to spend hours on end holding little bits of cardboard with people who remind them of their grandma in Plains, Georgia? nickfsydney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. OK...sorry but I literally am laughing so hard I'm crying...I'm not even joking lol. I don't think this video will appeal to the target market. I will say they did one thing right, they included girls (well mainly 1 girl) that were attractive. But the rest of it...what a horrorshow. BTW Nick as far as 41 year olds go you're pretty cool dude :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 I can't stop watching it, it's just too funny. Some highlights: -Pic of guy eyeing girl. Then the word "squeeze" pops up. Very subtle.-LOTS of cell phones. You know people with cell phones are cool.-Guys doing weird things with their hands putting them in unnatural positions, much like a rapper. Rappers are COOL.-Rap music.-RANDOM bridge terms popping up all over. Ok...must...stop...watching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 Caveat: I'm 50, so it's been a LONG time since I've had any idea what's cool. But I do know campy. THIS IS REALLY, REALLY, REALLY CAMPY!!! Unfortunately, I'm sure it's quite unintentional, unless it was done by a mole from the Chess Youth Outreach. The fight for market share is eternal. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cf_John0 Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 (edited) A good ad video for both bridge and cellphone. Even a good site! Edited September 23, 2005 by cf_John0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 Yo, man. I was just playin a game, you know, and, you know, the Ho on lead was all in my ***** about Dude's bidding and all. She was all in my face. I was back at her after sittin quiet for a minute. She was all blasay-blasay and called the D-rector. Dude was off the wall. No rulizzle, no adjustizzle. Peace out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 1) young blond chicks cannot be bad marketing2) cellphones cannot be bad marketing for under 30.3) over 50 here but I think most will underestimate this approach compared to others.4) I note...membership grew...average age fell.....5) For those who have better idea, please send money with idea..not just idea thanks.6) Of course all of this may fail and bridge may fail and go poof...prefer to hope and dream and send in my check that goes to youth bridge. Will explain what a check is to these young superstars when they teach me Winkle and Adv in Bridge book stuff :). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blofeld Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 Agree with Justin. If intended to persuade people to play bridge, that video is an insult to the viewers' intelligence. On the other hand, as a tongue-in-cheek take on modern marketing styles while poking slight fun at the desire of the game to appear 'cool', it's wonderful. I started off watching it in horror, and then slowly cracked up. The best line, though, has to be "And ... get the children off the street!" I'm surprised they didn't start touting the medicinal properties of bridge [which do at least exist] or portraying it as the way to world peace. What was with the phones, assuming that they weren't inserted as a joke? It's hard to think of activities which have less use for mobile phones than does bridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 So let me get this straight. This clip was made to actually show someone and then possibly get younger players involved in bridge? Seriously? AAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!(yes I know multiple exclamation marks are the sure sign of - well read Pterry to know of what) I didn't recognize any of the "players" in the video. If you want to promote bridge, show them junior tournaments, junior camps. Interviews with young players. I dunno. But not this. Please. Thank you. This reminds me of where the Addams family kids are forced to watch Disney videos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 Lol, my girlfriend is about to start with bridge, I've shown her the video now, and she said "ok, if I didn't know this much about bridge like I do at this moment, I'd NEVER want to even try to learn it". She's 19, isn't that a piece of the target market? The video just kills any interest in the game!!! Who creates such evil?? Is it the same people who are banning COOL systems?? :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rain Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 It looks like a cell phone ad. But its nice to see attractive people play bridge, if those are real people! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 Probably these are real people, hired actors who don't know bridge. But there are attractive people playing bridge. Try scanning through Riccione bulletins you'll be sure to find some there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 The best line, though, has to be "And ... get the children off the street!" Agree COMPLETELY. When that came up, I started thinking about the Simpsons episode where reverend Lovejoy's wife keeps yelling "Won't somebody PLEASE think of the children" I'm trying to figure out where this campaign went so terribly wrong: 1. The assumption that the ACBL is capable of designing a marketing campaign to attract youth players. Can you imagine an organization the less in touch with its target audience?2. The belief within the ACBL that the organization would tolerate a bunch of cellphone toting gangsta "wanna be's" at its events. Admitted, all the youth players in the video proper are white, but I just imagine the interactions between these idiots and the geriatric set. I went through a phase about 10-12 years ago where I was interested seeing the ACBL reform its ways. Today, I'm older and wiser. I believe that the continued existence of the ACBL is actively detrimental to the long term survival of bridge in North America. The soon that it fails, the sooner people can try to start over. With luck, there will still be some people who survive the great collapse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 Today, I'm older and wiser. I just wanted to add: It was cold as ice, until she TOOK the HOOK! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 I'd like to encourage you go to: Bridge is Cool video Am i just an uncool 41-year old or does everyone else cringe as well? But more importantly, will this video be a successful vehicle for encouraging its target market (15-25 year old wannabe gangsta rappers I guess) to spend hours on end holding little bits of cardboard with people who remind them of their grandma in Plains, Georgia? nickfsydney I think that video is a pathetic waste of money. Before going and spending money on advertising, its very useful to have some understanding different ways in which companies try to use advertising. 1. In the best of all world, advertising is used to demonstrate a compelling value proposition. You have something VERY good to sell. Advertising is a tool to increase the size of our market. 2. All too often, companies try to use advertising to substitute for a compelling value proposition. If you spend enough money, its possible to create significant buzz. On rare occasions, you might even be able to establish a “brand” which can substitute for product. Personally, I'm a big fan of the first advertising model. I have a visceral distaste for the second. There were a lot of studies surround advertising expenditures by the Dot Coms. Many of these companies spent LOTS of money and generated enormous brand awareness, but never generated much in the way of sales. They wasted enormous amounts of capital on Superbowl ads that could have been used for engineering. In a similar vein, today Sony announced that it was laying off 10,000 employees. (A JAPANESE company is laying off 10,000 people) Sony's premium brand isn't protecting itself against low priced Korean and Chinese competitors. The Bridge is Cool campaign reminds me of the second type of advertising model. The ACBL is trying to generate visibility, however, its unable to articulate why young people should bother to learn the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_U_Card Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 Are 14-19 yr. olds the target market? How will they be exposed to this video, on MTV? No one will ever see this on the ACBL web-site and who amongst us will distribute this inanity to anyone except as a joke? Aren't they better off targeting the 35-50 demographic? Speak to the economic, mental exercise, etc. issues. This was your parent's game, NOT your kid's and interestingly your parents (as we come to realize with time) were not wrong about EVERYTHING..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_U_Card Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 I can see it now.....2 attractive 40 something couples in a hot tub saying "No, no a rubber of BRIDGE..."..... :P :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awm Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 Everyone I've talked to about the video thinks it's a bad joke. But keep in mind, none of us are part of the target audience. The video isn't targeting people who already know something about bridge, and can therefore see how ridiculous it is. I think it's also important to understand that getting young people to play bridge isn't really one of ACBL's main goals. The goal of this campaign is to: (1) Change the image of bridge so it's not universally viewed as a game for old people. (2) Make young people aware of the existence of bridge. (3) Encourage young people to learn the very basics of the game, so that perhaps they will "rediscover bridge" when they are older and become serious bridge players then. I'm not sure if this video will accomplish those goals or not, but it's important to recognize that it's not directed at people who already play bridge, at particularly smart people (i.e. "gamers" who might take up bridge in college), or at anyone older than 19. On the other hand, ACBL has started maintaining a booth at Origins (the big convention for gamers) and it seems like this might be a reasonable way to market bridge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_R__E_G Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 It has not been too long since I was in the target age range and it was not that long ago that I knew nothing about bridge (some might argue I still don't) so I think I can be pretty confident in my thoughts on this. If a young person has any preconceptions on bridge it is that it is played by old people and "geeks". Watching this video will only reinforce this preconception. Golly gee, after watching this video I'm beginning to think it might be true. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_U_Card Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 If a young person has any preconceptions on bridge it is that it is played by old people and "geeks". Watching this video will only reinforce this preconception. Worse yet, the general impression of people I know who play bridge think most "tournament" players are obnoxious, accusatory and socially inept individuals which leads them to not wanting to get involved with the ACBL or competitive play in general. Online bridge is "exposing" a plethora of non-ACBL types to a more rigorous field of play. The ACBL should be actively promoting at ALL online sites the benefits of ACBL in particular and competitive bridge in general. The application of zero tolerance toward making the playing environment a socially benificent one is of paramount import. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 old people and geeks? Bridge is played by gangstas can't you tell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 Are 14-19 yr. olds the target market? How will they be exposed to this video, on MTV? No one will ever see this on the ACBL web-site and who amongst us will distribute this inanity to anyone except as a joke? Aren't they better off targeting the 35-50 demographic? Speak to the economic, mental exercise, etc. issues. This was your parent's game, NOT your kid's and interestingly your parents (as we come to realize with time) were not wrong about EVERYTHING..... ACBL has been working on getting bridge into schools. I guess the bridgeiscool.com web site is going to be promoted that way. And the 35-50 demographic would be a very hard group to get. These are people busy with jobs and families, it would be difficult to hook them on a new activity like this. You have to get them while they're young. I agree with the goal, I'm not sure if this video is at all helpful. I'm not sure what would be better, but what do I know? It does remind me of a cellphone commercial -- have you seen the recent ads for the ROKR? I think the ACBL actually hired a real marketing firm to develop this web site and other parts of the youth promotional campaign, it didn't come out of the aged minds of ACBL management. If it fails, I don't think it's for lack of trying, it could just be that they've set themselves a difficult task. Games like this are not generally marketed, their popularity occurs naturally through the community. Read the interview with the Truscotts in this month's Bridge World -- they mention that bridge was popular during the depression because it was cheap entertainment, and during World War II bridge and chess were commonly played in bomb shelters. Lifestyles are different now, and it's harder for games like bridge to be passed on to the younger generation in the way they used to be -- since most bridge players are grandparents, it would have to skip a generation to get going again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTodd13 Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 The video is lame lame lame. It's like trying to sell refrigerators to eskimos. If a kid ever does go there and watch the video, they are more likely than not to be repulsed by it and never ever try bridge even if they might try it had they never seen the video. The reason is they think that if they try it they will be surrounded by people who evidently think that this video is cool. This just shows how out-of-touch ACBL marketing is. I think something much more straight forward and sober that simply says "Bridge has gotten a bum rap. If you enjoy strategic games like Magic: The Gathering or chess then bridge is for you." Include some testimonials from the young people that are playing the game and you may attract that portion of the youth that are inclined to games of this type anyway. You're simply not going to attract the majority of youth that are slaves to our vapish culture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTired Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 I agree. Trying to make bridge "cool" is ridiculous. As soon as you try to teach kids the scoring, they will realize that it is hard work. Personally, I think the current poker craze will do more for bridge than anything else. First, it will get people familiar with cards and card games. Second, it will interest them in playing something that requires thought and a mental challenge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rain Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 I don't think this is the correct way of going about promoting bridge. Promote bridge by making it attractive, not *telling* people it is cool. Show people the advantages of playing a lot of bridge and doing well in it! This means $$$. Create some $$$$$$$ tourneys and they'll have their young generation of bridge players eating out of their hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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