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BPO-005F

SOUTH WEST NORTH EAST

 1NT     Pass      2     2

 Pass    Pass   DBL  Pass

  ? Your Bid

 

You open 1NT and partner uses jacoby 2 Transfer. Your RHO interjects 2 overcall. You pass back to partner who doubles, your bid. [/hv]

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I pass, despite the third heart. The spade holding is very defensive.

 

In particular, though, while I'm fairly sure that 2 is down (else what is partner doubling on?), I have no guarantee that we're making game, and 2x could well be nice against a partscore.

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BPO-005F: Pass

 

Takeout doubles are mean to be taken out. However, I'm sitting on 3 defensive tricks in Spades with slow tricks in both minors. When I opened 1N, I gave partner a very good description regarding my shape and strength. Partner had a number of other balancing decisions available including both 3H and 3m. He chose to double, knowing that I would pass with an appropriate hand.

 

Could I have anything more appropriate? Yes. In theory, I could have xx in Hearts (maybe even x). However, at this is the vulnerability where I am happiest to convert doubles...

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I think its an easy Pass.

 

I don't think the pard's double should be 100% takeout per se. What would he do with a 9 count with no clear direction, holding a 3-5-?-? pattern? Double should confirm that we have the lion's share of the deck - do the right thing.

 

Even if the double was strictly takeout, I still pass, but knowing that it could be point showing, then pass becomes 100%.

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Here is my idea of what the double shows:

 

The double does NOT show a very distributional 1-suiter. With these hands partner has no interest in defending and would just bid game. the double certainly allows us to pass with suitable hands. I think that it is very unlikely for the doubler to have 6 hearts.

 

The doubler could have any strength from just competitive to slam interest. Most likely partner will have 7-8 points with 2 small spades and 5 hearts, but partner could very well have a gameforcing balanced hand with 5 hearts and no spade stopper.

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The doubler could have any strength from just competitive to slam interest. Most likely partner will have 7-8 points with 2 small spades and 5 hearts, but partner could very well have a gameforcing balanced hand with 5 hearts and no spade stopper.

I thought about this too, but with this hand I think pard would just cue 3.

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I think that it is very unlikely for the doubler to have 6 hearts.

why? i guess he could repeat diamonds, but double also seems like a way to make opener the declarer...

Getting opener to play it is useful, but you can't do it all. You need a way to X here (takeout) and have partner be able to make an intelligent decision. If you are distorting your calls just to rightside contracts, partner is less likely to make good decisions. With 6 hearts just bid 3H, not perfect, but at least all other calls keep their integrity.

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I passed.

 

Partner has made a card-showing double. Pass will hardly surprise him.

 

One factor at which I look in these cases is whether my defensive holding, esp in trump, is going to be bad news to declarer. Declarer knew, of course, that there was a good chance that I was sitting over him with AKx or so, but he will not have made his bid assuming AK9x (if he did, then he is the kind of person who will never cross the road, out of fear of a truck coming out of nowhere). I do think that my holding is going to be his worst nightmare.

 

Also, let's think about the double.

 

Can partner be void in ? I don't think so; not for a moment.

 

He will have at least 1 and often 2. In fact he may even have 3, altho that would be an unexpected bonus, and I would give little weight to that in my decision.

 

Can partner hold a hand suitable for slam? I do not believe so. He should not double with a hand that can make slam opposite values.

 

Can he hold 6 ? I guess so, but they will be poor and he will have decent values outside, where they will be of defensive value. He should NOT give you a chance to defend if his hand is strongly offensive.

 

BTW, I would not take 3 by him as a retransfer. He has to be allowed to compete with -minor 2-suiters, and so he needs 3/ as natural. However, that assumes no prior agreement as to the meaning of a balancing 2N. Such a bid is not really useful in a natural context, so could well be played as a transfer, allowing 3 to retransfer to . These are the types of things you make note of to discuss after the hand: not the type of thing you spring upon partner in an undiscussed auction. When in doubt, your bids are natural B)

 

I usually find myself agreeing with Justin, but this one was, I felt, an easy decision.

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Well, pard definitely does NOT have Spades. Since you may lose the minor suit aces, your other losers are in trumps. I think that a 3H bid will get you to the right spot. (Your hand is only good for 4 or 5 sure tricks against spades and LHO may have 3 or 4 small spades and find a bid!)

 

btw your pass over 2S should deny 3H cards so pard is saying he has values for his bid but not S. If he has KQ of H and a minor suit ace game is there. (Maybe even 3NT )

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I don't agree that any time we pass 2S we deny 3 hearts. If we had a defensive hand with spade values there would be no need to bid. If we were 4333 there wouldn't be much of a reason to bid, partner can still act, and for all we know he has a yarb.
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Well, pard definitely does NOT have Spades. Since you may lose the minor suit aces, your other losers are in trumps. I think that a 3H bid will get you to the right spot. (Your hand is only good for 4 or 5 sure tricks against spades and LHO may have 3 or 4 small spades and find a bid!)

 

btw your pass over 2S should deny 3H cards so pard is saying he has values for his bid but not S. If he has KQ of H and a minor suit ace game is there.

Once again, its important to note the vulnerability...

 

The opponents are white. They're gonna be feeling frisky.

We should strive to teach them a lesson.

 

We're also white. +300 is going to be worth 4 IMPS verus a partscore

+500 is going to be worth 2 IMPS versus a game

 

White on white is one of THE most attractive times to be extracting penalties

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another thing is that the opponents aren't just some joe blow playing in the main club on bbo! Its imps so my opp knows what he is doing. So we dont have to go for the match on one board but just be where we feel we belong. Like I posted before we can most likely take anywhere from 8-10 trickes in NT or 's.
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