pclayton Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 I need to ask a question and I can't access BBO-ADV this moment. Is a repeat of responder's suit a non-GF? As far as 2♠ showing extras, this comes from a Mike Lawrence 2/1 framework - and 'extras' are defined as about a K better than a minimum (as Fred suggests). Regardless of whether or not 3♦ by responder shows a sub minimum, 2♠ by opener 're-establishes' a GF. If a repeat of responders suit is still a GF (like Hardy) then 2♠ can be made on a minny - like Bathurst says. However, I'm guessing if you took a poll of the 100 top 2/1 players in the world, their prototypical minimum 2♠ call is about identical to the subject hand. Maybe BBO-ADV 2/1 is mixing elements of Lawrence and Hardy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 i think a 2/1 is a total game force, phil, even 1d/2c/2any/3c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted September 26, 2005 Report Share Posted September 26, 2005 The only alternative I could see was 2NT wich also shows extras Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1303 Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 2S for me, but I think this only just cuts it. Reverse my minors, or give me a singleton diamond and it would be a very close decision. Give me KQJxAKxxxJTxx and I would bid 2H only Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 I do usually play 2S here shows extras, wasn't sure if that was true of BBO advanced. As I said, if it did show them, I had them :) One of my friends Kevin Bathurst thinks 1H then 2S should show ANY hand with 4 spades, not extras (whereas 3 level bids do show extras). The reasoning is if responder has 4315 or 4324 (yes he bids 2C with this shape for good reason) over a 2H rebid he will raise hearts and spades will be lost forever. This is interesting to me, but I do not generally play this way. I also like Fred's definition of extras. Totally agree wtih kevin! he also bids it with 4333...4342... ah how bidding has changed. But anyways, thats 2C, you could make a case for 2S= extras over 2D and not over 2S. I think that sucks too, the best reason for 2S over 2D to not show extras is that the auction times out much better for you, and you will often get to make THREE bids to describe your shape. This is more important than only making 2 bids and clarifying strength but not getting the all important 3rd shape bid in. Also, wouldn't you want to be able to bid 1H 2H 3S on KQx AJxxxx Jx xx? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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