BPO-005C

[whereagles]

I think I doubled.. can't remember.. lol.

 

Still, I don't think they can make this. Dbl seems fair. (This is obviously penalties.. pard already gave his hand with the responsive dbl.)

[Double !]

I voted for Double (of course).

 

However, IMO a major crux of this problem that hasn't been discussed so far is the meaning of partner's responsive double. I know of some people who play that this implies 4-card heart support and enough to compete at the 3-level (but not wanting to hang partner should partner only have 3 hearts). I know of others who play that the responsive double is more minor-suit oriented with enough to compete, and that these people would bid 3 hearts with a 4-card heart suit. (i.e.: If you have hearts, bid them in response to 1S-X which usually is looking for a heart contract). Curious to know what the current take is regarding the responsive double.

[Guest Jlall]

to me the responsive X shows tolerance for hearts, but usually not 4 (unless partner was planning to X then bid hearts to show a flexible hand with 4 hearts). a typical shape for him would be the same as us. He could also be 3334, 13(54) etc.

[Rebound]

I agree with you, Justin, which is why I want to axe this contract. Mirrored distribution is, I'm sure you'll agree, generally a bad thing offensively. We should be able to set this on power after A-x trump lead.

[Guest Jlall]

I agree with you, Justin, which is why I want to axe this contract. Mirrored distribution is, I'm sure you'll agree, generally a bad thing offensively. We should be able to set this on power after A-x trump lead.

sure but if our red opps are not insane they will likely have 10 trumps, in which case we will make a game in a minor (likely). However, with a stiff pard will not sit, but I don't think he will sit with a doubleton either.

[inquiry]

This time, pass is a clear cut winner, six votes to four (for double). Even amongst the doublers, there is some difference of opinion what it means. Pass seems right me too.

 

FRED "Pass - Am I really supposed to bid on this flat defensive hand because I have an extra Jack? Partner is still alive. If he wants to act again he is welcome to do so. I think 3S is a favorite to go down and I have no reason to believe that we can make anything at the 4-level. As such, it would be a mistake for me to take any action that rates to result in our side declaring instead of defending."

 

Fluffy "Pass, clearly the toughest for me, first I discarded pass for being a bit too strong, then 1 by one, discarded all the othe 5 choices for being even worse. 4♥ was close, but might find partner with 2344 also and will cost at least 1400. At the table I wouldn't pass because I jammed my partner's choices of reopening by thinking too much."

 

Beto "Pass. Game here is out of question and if we can make 4m they will probably go down in 3♠. This would be a very difficult problem in MPs, where maybe you have to double to collect 200."

 

NG: "Double. I don't agree my first bid, I would have bid 1NT, not double. Partner's

double is responsive, promises minors. What means East's 3S (and 2S)?

Preemtive? Constructive? If 3S is preemtive, I double, it is not penalty but

promises minors also, and a good hand. My second choice is 4C. "

 

Roland "PASS. This hand has defense written all over it. Yes, I know we have at least one fit in a minor after partner's responsive double, but we don't make game. The 2S raise can be very weak, but I still don't fancy my chances in 3NT. At best it's on a finesse if partner has five clubs to the ace and HA. Do partners ever have ideal cards?"

 

Sergey "Pass - I don't like my 15 soft points to bid now. For making a game (3N) partner must have at least dAKxx and cAxxx. With this hand (or weaker one including 2A) he will reopen with Dbl which we'll pass. If we dbl now showing extras partner will pass with balanced min hand relying on TNT (17 trumps) and 3sX may be made. "

 

Ritong "Pass I remember this one, the guy doubled & led the ♠ ace when it was swished out. Share none of these options, do not bid when game is reasonably out of the picture. "

 

Justin "Double . Hoping they will get caught in the rhythm and bid 4S which partner can X. Just kidding, this is pretty marginal but I suspect the opps may be trying to steal from us. I X to show extra values and no good suit to bid. I don't think my hand is right to bid 3N; once they knock out my spade I'll need 8 more fast tricks. I'm hoping to get us to 5 of a minor with this bid."

 

Luis: "Action double. Pd's double shows the minors, my double shows I have a fit for one or both of pd's suits BUT I will accept a 3NT bid as an option.

The only way I have to mantain both 3NT and 5m in the picture is with a dbl

so it's very easy for pd to understand."

 

Reisig "To me X (here) says I have something so say ..but not clear what. So ..I'd double. "

 

Flytoox "Double. I have more than minimum. Double should still be takeout here, as we did not found a fit yet. However, I do not mind partner pass my double. " [/i]

 

 

Scores

PASS = 100

DBL = 70

[JLOGIC]

I totally missed the boat here, my hand sucks and it's an easy pass. I do not want to compete to 4 of a minor with a hand like this. MATURITY!