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*00{Precision(Forum)}=NYYYYYYSimplified Precison a la Wei. Natural 1!d-opening.Helene-t December 2006 on the basis of BBO-Forum polls

001C=YYYYYYY50816+HCP

001CP1D=YYYYYYY5080-7 HCP or three-suited

001CP1DP1H=NYYYYYY34816-21 Usually 5+ !hs

001CP1DP1HP2S=NYYYNYN601Three-suited

001CP1DP1HP2N=NYYYYYY63-suited short in hearts

001CP1DP1HP3C=NNYYYYY601Three-suited

001CP1DP1HP3D=NYNYYYY6013-suited

001CP1DP1HP2H=NYYYYYY338

001CP1DP1HP1S=NYYYYYY445

001CP1DP1HP1N=NYYYYYY3

001CP1DP1HP2C=NYYYYYY458

001CP1DP1HP2D=NYYYYYY458

001CP1DP1S=NYYYYYY34816-21 HCP. Usually 5+ !ss

001CP1DP1SP2S=NYYYYYY338

001CP1DP1SP2N=NYYYYYY63-suited short in spades

001CP1DP1SP3C=NNYYYYY601Three-suited

001CP1DP1SP3D=NYNYYYY6013-suited

001CP1DP1SP3H=NYYNYYN601Three-suited

001CP1DP1SP2H=NYYYYYY455

001CP1DP1SP1N=NYYYYYY3

001CP1DP1SP2C=NYYYYYY458

001CP1DP1SP2D=NYYYYYY458

001CP1DP1N=NYYYYYY316-18

001CP1DP1NP2C=NYYYYYYC08Stayman

001CP1DP1NP2D=YYYYYYYA08

001CP1DP1NP2H=YYYYYYYA08

001CP1DP1NP2S=NYYNNYYA04Weak with either minor

001CP1DP1NP2N=NNNNNYN4

001CP1DP1NP3C=NYNNNYN468

001CP1DP1NP3D=NNYNNYN468

001CP1DP2C=NYYYYYY35816-21

001CP1DP2CP2D=NYYYYYNC05

001CP1DP2CP2H=NYNYNYN355

001CP1DP2CP2S=NYNNYYN355

001CP1DP2CP2N=NYNNNYN4

001CP1DP2CP3C=NYNNNYY338

001CP1DP2CP3D=NYNYYYN601Three-suited

001CP1DP2CP3H=NYNNYYN601Thre-suited

001CP1DP2CP3S=NYYYNYN601Three-suited

001CP1DP2H=NYYYYYN558

001CP1DP2D=NYYYYYY35816-21 HCP

001CP1DP2S=NYYYYYN558

001CP1DP2N=NYYYYYY419-21

001CP1DP2NP3C=NYYYYYNC08Stayman

001CP1DP2NP3D=NYYYYYYA08

001CP1DP2NP3H=NYYYYYYA08

001CP1DP3C=NYYYYYN558

001CP1DP3D=NYYYYYN558

001CP1DP3N=NYYYYYN624-27

001CP1H=NYYYYYN658

001CP1S=NYYYYYN658

001CP1N=NYYYYYN68-10 or 14-15

001CP1NP2C=NYYYYYNC08Stayman

001CP1NP2D=NNYNNYN658

001CP1NP2H=NNNYNYN658

001CP1NP2S=NNNNYYN658

001CP2C=NYYYYYN658

001CP2CP2D=YYYYYYNC08

001CP2D=NYYYYYN658

001CP2H=NYYYYYY468

001CP2S=NYYYYYY468

001CP2N=NYYYYYN611-13 or 16+

001CP3C=NYYYYYY468

001CP3D=NYYYYYY468

001CDP=NNYYYYYNegative w/ 3- clubs. Or 3-suited positive, short in clubs

001CDR=NYYYYYYNegative w/ 4+ clubs. Or 3-suited positive, not short in clubs.

001CD1D=NYYYYYN6580-7 HCP or three-suited

001CD1DP1H=NYYYYYY34816-21 Usually 5+ !hs

001CD1DP1HP2S=NYYYNYN601Three-suited

001CD1DP1HP2N=NYYYYYY63-suited short in hearts

001CD1DP1HP3C=NNYYYYY601Three-suited

001CD1DP1HP3D=NYNYYYY6013-suited

001CD1DP1HP2H=NYYYYYY338

001CD1DP1HP1S=NYYYYYY445

001CD1DP1HP1N=NYYYYYY3

001CD1DP1HP2C=NYYYYYY458

001CD1DP1HP2D=NYYYYYY458

001CD1DP1S=NYYYYYY34816-21 HCP. Usually 5+ !ss

001CD1DP1SP2S=NYYYYYY338

001CD1DP1SP2N=NYYYYYY63-suited short in hearts

001CD1DP1SP3C=NNYYYYY601Three-suited

001CD1DP1SP3D=NYNYYYY6013-suited

001CD1DP1SP3H=NYYNYYN601Three-suited

001CD1DP1SP2H=NYYYYYY455

001CD1DP1SP1N=NYYYYYY3

001CD1DP1SP2C=NYYYYYY458

001CD1DP1SP2D=NYYYYYY458

001CD1DP1N=NYYYYYY316-18

001CD1DP1NP2C=NYYYYYYC08Stayman

001CD1DP1NP2D=YYYYYYYA08

001CD1DP1NP2H=YYYYYYYA08

001CD1DP1NP2S=NYYNNYYA04Weak with either minor

001CD1DP1NP2N=NNNNNYN4

001CD1DP1NP3C=NYNNNYN468

001CD1DP1NP3D=NNYNNYN468

001CD1DP2C=NYYYYYY35816-21

001CD1DP2CP2D=NYYYYYNC05

001CD1DP2CP2H=NYNYNYN355

001CD1DP2CP2S=NYNNYYN355

001CD1DP2CP2N=NYNNNYN4

001CD1DP2CP3C=NYNNNYY338

001CD1DP2CP3D=NYNYYYN601Three-suited

001CD1DP2CP3H=NYNNYYN601Thre-suited

001CD1DP2CP3S=NYYYNYN601Three-suited

001CD1DP2H=NYYYYYN558

001CD1DP2D=NYYYYYY35816-21 HCP

001CD1DP2S=NYYYYYN558

001CD1DP2N=NYYYYYY419-21

001CD1DP2NP3C=NYYYYYNC08Stayman

001CD1DP2NP3D=NYYYYYYA08

001CD1DP2NP3H=NYYYYYYA08

001CD1DP3C=NYYYYYN558

001CD1DP3D=NYYYYYN558

001CD1DP3N=NYYYYYN624-27

001CD1H=NYYYYYN658

001CD1S=NYYYYYN658

001CD1N=NYYYYYN68-10 or 14-15

001CD1NP2C=NYYYYYNC08Stayman

001CD1NP2D=NNYNNYN658

001CD1NP2H=NNNYNYN658

001CD1NP2S=NNNNYYN658

001CD2C=NYYYYYN658

001CD2CP2D=YYYYYYNC08

001CD2D=NYYYYYN658

001CD2H=NYYYYYY468

001CD2S=NYYYYYY468

001CD2N=NYYYYYN611-13 or 16+

001CD3C=NYYYYYY468

001CD3D=NYYYYYY468

001C1DD=NYYYYYYSemipositive, any hand that can't penalize !d, or t/o on !d

001C1D1H=NYYYYYN658

001C1D1S=NYYYYYN658

001C1D1N=NYYYYYN68-10 or 14-15

001C1D1NP2C=NYYYYYNC08Stayman

001C1D1NP2D=NNYNNYN658

001C1D1NP2H=NNNYNYN658

001C1D1NP2S=NNNNYYN658

001C1D2C=NYYYYYN658

001C1D2CP2D=YYYYYYNC08

001C1D2D=NYYYYYN658

001C1D2H=NYYYYYY468

001C1D2S=NYYYYYY468

001C1D2N=NYYYYYN611-13 or 16+

001C1D3C=NYYYYYY468

001C1D3D=NYYYYYY468

001C1DP=NYYYYYY0-5 HCP or semipositive with !d (trap pass)

001C1HD=NYYYYYYSemipositive, any hand that can't penalize !h, or t/o on !h

001C1H1S=NYYYYYN658

001C1H1N=NYYYYYN68-10 or 14-15

001C1H1NP2C=NYYYYYNC08Stayman

001C1H1NP2D=NNYNNYN658

001C1H1NP2H=NNNYNYN658

001C1H1NP2S=NNNNYYN658

001C1H2C=NYYYYYN658

001C1H2CP2D=YYYYYYNC08

001C1H2D=NYYYYYN658

001C1H2H=NYYYYYY468

001C1H2S=NYYYYYY468

001C1H2N=NYYYYYN611-13 or 16+

001C1H3C=NYYYYYY468

001C1H3D=NYYYYYY468

001C1HP=NYYYYYY0-5 HCP or semipositive with !h (trap pass)

001C1SD=NYYYYYYSemipositive, any hand that can't penalize !s, or t/o on !s

001C1S1N=NYYYYYN68-10 or 14-15

001C1S1NP2C=NYYYYYNC08Stayman

001C1S1NP2D=NNYNNYN658

001C1S1NP2H=NNNYNYN658

001C1S1NP2S=NNNNYYN658

001C1S2C=NYYYYYN658

001C1S2CP2D=YYYYYYNC08

001C1S2D=NYYYYYN658

001C1S2H=NYYYYYY468

001C1S2S=NYYYYYY468

001C1S2N=NYYYYYN611-13 or 16+

001C1S3C=NYYYYYY468

001C1S3D=NYYYYYY468

001C1SP=NYYYYYY0-5 HCP or semipositive with !s (trap pass)

001C2CD=NYYYYYYSemipositive, any hand that can't penalize !c, or t/o on !c

001C2C2D=NYYYYYN658

001C2C2H=NYYYYYY468

001C2C2S=NYYYYYY468

001C2C2N=NYYYYYN68-10 or 14+

001C2C3C=YYYYYYN6035-5 majors

001C2C3D=NYYYYYY468

001C2CP=NYYYYYY0-5 HCP or semipositive with !c (trap pass)

001C2C3H=NYYYYYY468

001C2C3S=NYYYYYY468

001C2C3N=NYYYYYN611-13

001C2DD=NYYYYYYSemipositive, any hand that can't penalize !d, or t/o on !d

001C2D2H=NYYYYYY458

001C2D2S=NYYYYYY458

001C2D2N=NYYYYYN68-10 or 14+

001C2D3C=YYYYYYN658

001C2D3D=NYYYYYN6035-5 majors

001C2DP=NYYYYYY0-5 HCP or semipositive with !d (trap pass)

001C2D3H=NYYYYYY468

001C2D3S=NYYYYYY468

001C2D3N=NYYYYYN611-13

001C2HD=NYYYYYYSemipositive, any hand that can't penalize !h, or t/o on !h

001C2H2S=NYYYYYY658

001C2H2N=NYYYYYN68-10 or 14+

001C2H3C=YYYYYYN658

001C2H3D=NYYYYYY658

001C2HP=NYYYYYY0-5 HCP or semipositive with !h (trap pass)

001C2H3H=YYYYYYN6035-5 minors

001C2H3S=NYYYYYY468

001C2H3N=NYYYYYN611-13

001C2SD=NYYYYYYSemipositive, any hand that can't penalize !s, or t/o on !s

001C2S2N=NYYYYYN68-10 or 14+

001C2S3C=YYYYYYN658

001C2S3D=NYYYYYN658

001C2SP=NYYYYYY0-5 HCP or semipositive with !s (trap pass)

001C2S3H=NYYYYYY468

001C2S3S=NYYYYYY468

001C2S3N=NYYYYYN611-13

001C3CD=NYYYYYYSemipositive, any hand that can't penalize !c, or t/o on !c

001C3C3D=NYYYYYY658

001C3CP=NYYYYYY0-5 HCP or semipositive with !c (trap pass)

001C3C3H=NYYYYYY658

001C3C3S=NYYYYYY658

001C3C3N=NYYYYYN6

001C3DD=NYYYYYYSemipositive, any hand that can't penalize !d, or t/o on !d

001C3DP=NYYYYYY0-5 HCP or semipositive with !d (trap pass)

001C3D3H=NYYYYYY658

001C3D3S=NYYYYYY658

001C3D3N=NYYYYYN6

001C1ND=NYYYYYNSemi-positive or penalty-oriented

001C1N2C=NYYYYYN658

001C1N2CP2D=YYYYYYNC08

001C1N2D=NYYYYYN658

001C1N2H=NYYYYYY468

001C1N2S=NYYYYYY468

001C1N2N=NYYYYYN6

001C1N3C=NYYYYYY468

001C1N3D=NYYYYYY468

001C1N3H=NYYYYYN468

001C1N3S=NYYYYYN468

001D=NYYYYYY33811-15 HCP, 4+ !d or 4135/1435

001DP1H=NYYYYYY548

001DP1HP1S=NYYYYYY344

001DP1HP1SP1N=NYYYYYY3

001DP1HP1SP2C=NYYYYYN6064th suit

001DP1HP1SP2D=NYYYNYY125

001DP1HP1SP2H=NYYYYYY168

001DP1HP1SP2S=NYYYYYY334Usually four spades

001DP1HP1SP2N=NYYYYYN4

001DP1HP1SP3C=NYYYYYN656

001DP1HP1SP3D=NYYYNYN435Usually four diamonds

001DP1HP1SP3H=NYYYNYN468

001DP1HP1SP3S=NNNNYNN644

001DP1HP1N=NYYYYYY3

001DP1HP2C=NYYYYYY345!c may be longer than !d

001DP1HP2CP2D=NYYYNYY125

001DP1HP2CP2H=NYYYYYY168

001DP1HP2CP2S=NYYYYYN6044th suit

001DP1HP2CP2N=NYYYYYN4

001DP1HP2CP3C=NYYYNYN446

001DP1HP2CP3D=NYYYNYN435Usually four diamonds

001DP1HP2CP3H=NYYYNYN468

001DP1HP2D=NYYYYYY368

001DP1HP2DP2H=NYYYNYY368

001DP1HP2DP2S=NYYYYYN524Ostensibly natural, maybe NT probe, adv cue for !d or waiting

001DP1HP2DP2N=NYYYYYN4

001DP1HP2DP3C=NYYYNYN626Onstensibly natural, maybe NT probe or adv cue for !d

001DP1HP2DP3D=NNYYYYN415

001DP1HP2DP3H=NNYYNYN668

001DP1HP2DP4D=NNYYNYN636

001DP1HP2H=NNNYNNY344

001DP1HP3C=NYYYYYN656

001DP1HP2S=NYYYYYN644

001DP1HP3D=NYYYNYN468

001DP1HP3DP3H=NYYYNYN658

001DP1HP3DP3S=NYYYNYN624Notrump probe or advanced cue

001DP1HP3H=NNNYNNN444

001DP1S=NYYYYYY548

001DP1SP2S=NYYYYYY334

001DP1SP1N=NYYYYYY31453-shape systematically possible

001DP1SP2C=NYYYYYY345!c may be longer than !d

001DP1SP3C=NYYYYYN656

001DP1SP2D=NYYYYYY368

001DP1SP2DP2H=NNYYYYN548

001DP1SP2DP2S=NYYNYYN368

001DP1SP2DP2N=NYYYYYN4

001DP1SP2DP3C=NYYNYYN636Can be a notrump probe or adv cue for !d

001DP1SP2DP3D=NNYNYYN425

001DP1SP2DP3H=NNYYYYN656

001DP1SP2DP3S=NNYNYYN668

001DP1SP2H=NYYYYYN544

001DP1SP3D=NYYYYYN468

001DP1N=NYYYYYY3

001DP2C=NYYYYYN558

001DP2CP2D=NYYYYYN548Extra length and/or minimum hand

001DP2CP2H=NYYYYYN644

001DP2CP2S=NYYYYYN644

001DP2CP2N=NYYYYYN5

001DP2CP3C=NYYYYYN536

001DP2CP3D=NYYNNYN668

001DP2D=NNYNNYN548

001DP2N=NYYNNYN6

001DP3D=NYYNNYY948

001DP2H=NNYYNYN658

001DP2S=NNYNYYN658

001DP3C=NYYNNYN658

001DD1H=NYYYYYY548

001DD1S=NYYYYYY548

001DD1N=NYYYYYY3

001DD2C=NYYYYYN358

001DD2D=NNYNNYN448

001DD2N=NYYYYYN6

001DD2H=NYYYNNY968

001DD2S=NYYNYNY968

001DD3C=NYYNNNN968

001DD3D=NYYNNNY948

001DDR=NYYYYYNPenalty-oriented and/or !c and/or !d

001D1H1S=NYYNYYY558

001D1H1N=NYYYYYY3

001D1H2C=NYYYYYN558

001D1H2D=NNYNNYN448

001D1H2N=NYYYYYN6

001D1HD=NYYNYYY4!s, possibly longer !c if < GF

001D1S1N=NYYYYYY3

001D1S2C=NYYYYYN558

001D1S2D=NNYNNYN448

001D1S2N=NYYYYYN6

001D1SD=NYYYNYY4!h, possibly longer !c if < GF

001D1S2H=NYYYNYN558

001D2C2D=NNYNNYN448

001D2C2N=NYYYYYN6

001D2CD=NNYYYYYboth majors, possibly long !s if < GF

001D2C2H=NNYYNYN558

001D2C2S=NNYYYYN558

001D2C3C=NNYNNYN408!d raise

001H=NYYYYYY05811-15 HCP

001HP1S=NYYYYYY548

001HP1SP1N=NYYYYYY3

001HP1SP1NP2H=NNNYNNY133

001HP1SP1NP2S=NNNNYNY158Usually six spades

001HP1SP1NP2N=NYYYYYN4

001HP1SP1NP3C=NYYYYYN646

001HP1SP1NP3D=NNYYYYN646Usually four diamonds

001HP1SP1NP3H=NYYYNYN468

001HP1SP1NP3S=NNNNYNN644

001HP1SP2C=NYYYYYY345

001HP1SP2CP2D=NYYYYYN6054th suit

001HP1SP2CP2H=NYNYYYY123Possibly false preference

001HP1SP2CP2S=NYYYYYY168

001HP1SP2CP2N=NYYYYYN4

001HP1SP2CP3C=NYYYYYN335

001HP1SP2CP3D=NYYYYYN656

001HP1SP2CP3H=NNNYNNN436

001HP1SP2CP3S=NYYYYYN468

001HP1SP2CP4C=NYNYNYN648

001HP1SP2D=NYYYYYY345

001HP1SP2DP2H=NYYYYYY123Possibly false preference

001HP1SP2DP2S=NYYYYYY166

001HP1SP2DP2N=NYYYYYN4

001HP1SP2DP3C=NYYYYYN6064th suit

001HP1SP2DP3D=NNYYYYN436

001HP1SP2DP3H=NNYYNNN436

001HP1SP2DP3S=NYYYYYN468

001HP1SP2DP4D=NNYYNYN646

001HP1SP2H=NYYYYYY368

001HP1SP2HP2S=NYYYYYY368

001HP1SP2HP2N=NYYYYYN4

001HP1SP2HP3C=NYYYYYN656

001HP1SP2HP3D=NYYYNYN435Usually four diamonds

001HP1SP2HP3H=NYYYNYN418

001HP1SP2HP3S=NNNYYYN668

001HP1SP2S=NNNNYNY344

001HP1SP3C=NYYYYYN656

001HP1SP3CP3D=NYYYYYNC064th suit

001HP1SP3D=NYYYYYN656

001HP1SP3H=NYYYYYN468

001HP1SP3S=NNNNYNN444

001HP1N=NYYYYYY5

001HP1NP2C=NYYYNYY336

001HP1NP2D=NYYYNYY336

001HP1NP2H=NYYYNYY168

001HP1NP2S=NYYYYYN534No further agreements

001HP1NP3H=NYYYNYN468

001HP2C=NYYYYYN558

001HP2CP2D=NYYYYYN546

001HP2CP2H=NYYYYYN558Minimum and/or extra length

001HP2CP2S=NYYYYYN644

001HP2CP2N=NYYYYYN5

001HP2CP3C=NYYYYYN536

001HP2CP3D=NYYYNYN656

001HP2CP3H=NYNYNYN668

001HP2D=NYYYYYN558

001HP2DP2H=NYYYYYN558

001HP2DP2S=NYYYYYN644

001HP2DP2N=NYYYYYN5

001HP2DP3C=NYYYYYN646

001HP2DP3D=NYYYYYN636

001HP2DP3H=NYNYNYN668

001HP2H=NNNYNNN334

001HP2S=NNNYYYN668

001HP2N=NYYYYYN6

001HP3H=NNNYNNY945

001HP3S=NNNYNNN801

001HP3N=NNNYNYN1

001HP4C=NNNYNNN801

001HP4D=NNNYNNY801

001HP4H=NNNYNNY138In principle preemptive but can be quite strong

001HP3C=NYNYNYN668

001HP3D=NNYYNYN668

001S=NYYYYYY35811-15 HCP

001SP1N=NYYYYYY5

001SP2C=NYYYYYN548

001SP2CP2D=NYYYYYN546

001SP2CP2DP2H=NYYYYYN6084th suit

001SP2CP2H=NYYYYYN546

001SP2CP2S=NYYYYYN558Extra length and/or minimum

001SP2CP2N=NYYYYYN5

001SP2CP3C=NYYYYYN636

001SP2CP3D=NYYYNYN656

001SP2CP3H=NYNYNYN668

001SP2D=NYYYYYN558

001SP2DP2H=NNYYYYN548

001SP2DP2S=NYYYYYN008Minimum and/or extra length

001SP2H=NNNYYYN558

001SP2HP2S=NYYYYYN508Minimum and/or extra length

001SP2HP2N=NYYYYYN5

001SP2HP3C=NYNYYYN648

001SP2HP3D=NNYYYYN648

001SP2HP3H=NNNYNNN638

001SP2S=NNNNYNN334

001SP2N=NYYYYYN6

001SP3C=NYNYNYN658Either one-suited or fitbid

001SP3D=NNYYNYN658Either one-suited or fitbid

001SP3H=NNNYYYN658Either one-suited or fitbid

001SP3S=NNNNYNY945

001SP3N=NNNYNYN1

001SP4C=NNNYNNN801

001SP4D=NNNYNNY801

001N=NYYYYYY3(12+)13-15 HCP

001NP2C=NYYYYYYC08Stayman

001NP2D=NYYYYYYA08

001NP2H=NYYYYYYA05

001NP2S=NYYNNYYB04Weak with either minor

001NP3C=NYNNNYN468

001NP3D=NNYNNYN468

001NP2N=NNNNNYN4

001ND2C=NYNNNNY158

001ND2D=NNYNNNY158

001ND2H=NNNYNNY158

001ND2S=NNNNYNY148

001NDR=NYYYYYYWeak two-suiter

001NDRP2C=NYYYYNY136

001NDRP2CP2D=NNYYYNY145!d and a major

001NDRP2CP2DP2H=NNNYYNY135Pass or correct

001NDRP2CP2H=NNNYYNY145Majors

001NDRP2D=NNYYYNY136Doubleton clubs or 3343

002C=NYYYYYY35811-15 HCP, 6 !cs or good five + 4M

002CP2D=NYYYYYNC08

002CP2DP2H=NYYYYYY344

002CP2DP2HP2S=NYYYYYN528Ostensibly 5!s but can be a notrump probe

002CP2DP2HP2N=NYNNNYN4

002CP2DP2HP3C=NYNNNYY328Weaker than a direct raise (2NT)

002CP2DP2HP3D=NYYYNYN528Ostensibly natural but can be a notrump probe

002CP2DP2HP3H=NYNYNYN438Usually 4+

002CP2DP2S=NYYYYYN348

002CP2DP2SP2N=NYNNNYN4

002CP2DP2SP3C=NYNNNYY328Weaker than a direct raise (2NT)

002CP2DP2SP3D=NYYYNYN528Ostensibly natural but can be a notrump probe

002CP2DP2SP3H=NYNYYYN428Ostensibly 5!h but can be a notrump probe

002CP2DP2SP3S=NYNNYYN438Usually 4+

002CP2DP2N=NYYYYYY56!c likes to declare in notrump

002CP2DP2NP3C=NYNNNYY108

002CP2DP2NP3D=NYYNNYN658

002CP2DP2NP3H=NYYYNYN658

002CP2DP2NP3S=NYYNYYN658

002CP2DP3C=NYYYYYY3686!c no maximum, likes partner to declare in notrumps

002CP2DP3CP3D=NYYYNYN528Ostensibly natural but can be a notrump probe

002CP2DP3CP3H=NYYYNYN658

002CP2DP3CP3S=NYNYYYN658Usually notrump probe

002CP2DP3D=NYYYYYN6046!c maximum, likes partner to declare in notrumps

002CP2DP3H=NYYYYYN6446!c+4!h, maximum

002CP2DP3S=NYYYYYN6446!c+4!s, maximum

002CP2H=NYYYNYY358

002CP2S=NYYNYYY358

002CP2N=NYNNNYY5Inv+ !c raise, stronger than via relay

002CP3C=NYNNNNY938

002CP3D=NYYNNYN668

002CP3H=NYNYNYN668

002CP3S=NYNNYYN668

002C2DD=NYNYYYYNegative

002C2D2H=NYNYYYN558

002C2D2S=NYNYYYN558

002C2D2N=NYNNNYN5

002C2D3C=NYNNNNY138

002C2HD=NYYNYYYNegative

002C2H2S=NYNYYYN058

002C2H2N=NYNNNYN5

002C2H3C=NYNNNNY138

002C2H3D=NYYNNYN658

002C2SD=NYYYNYYNegative

002C2S2N=NYNNNYN5

002C2S3C=NYNNNNY138

002C2S3D=NYYNNYN658

002C2S3H=NYNYNYN658

002D=NYYYYYY30111-15 HCP. 4414/4405 or 4315/3415 with weak !cs

002DP2H=NYYYYYY138Opener passes with 4 !hs, otherwise rebids 2!s

002DP2S=NNNNYNY148

002DP2N=NYYYYYNC

002DP2NP3C=NYYYYYY155Minimum

002DP2NP3D=NYYYYYN3014414

002DP2NP3DP3H=NYNYNYN438

002DP2NP3DP3S=NYNNYYN438

002DP2NP3DP4C=NYNNNYN748

002DP2NP3H=NYYYYYN6443415 extras

002DP2NP3S=NYYYYYN6444315 extras

002DP2NP3N=NYYYYYN64405 extras

002DP3C=NYNNNNY138

002DP3H=NYNYNYN448

002DP3S=NYNNYYN448

002DDR=NYNYYYYBoth majors (3+ 3+), no preference, or GF

002DD2H=NNNYNNN148

002DDP=NYYYYYYDiamonds, opener must pass

002D2HD=NYYYYYYPenalty

002D2SD=NYYYYYYPenalty

002D3CD=NYYYYYYPenalty

002D3C3D=NNNYYYNC08

002H=NYYYYYY966

002S=NYYYYYY966

002N=NYYYYYN322-23

002NP3C=NYYYYYNC08Stayman

002NP3D=NYYYYYNA08

002NP3H=NYYYYYNA08

003N=NYYYYYY9Gambling

003NP4C=NYYNNNN108pass or correct

003NP4D=NYYYYYN708Asks for singleton

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To Read Helene's simple precision...

 

Copy the text from her post.

Paste it into Notepad

Use "save as" feature and save as filename.bss (note, save as "all files" not "text file (*.txx))

Open with Full dislosure.

 

Comment/ additions now welcome. Thanks Helene

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Hello everyone

 

Is the 'end' of the 2D opening correct? "...with weak !cs"

 

Should this read something like, 'three suiter with 0-1 diamonds.' ?

 

I have played a lot of Precision and I would rather open 2D with 4315 or 3415 than than open 2Cs, unless in 3rd seat and just opening for a club 'directing lead.'

 

The 2D bid shows almost my whole hand in one bid. While a 2C opening may or may not be able to describe their 4M and 5C hand type 'if' the auction allows.

 

2C-(2D) overcall or 2C-(3D) overcall and partner needs to guess without much information.

 

2D- ? and partner has a very good idea of your general hand type.

 

The general trend is also towards opening 2Cs with 6+ Cs. Unless the 1D bid requires more than 2+ to open the bidding. I use a 2+ opening to allow my 2C opening to show 6+Cs.

 

Opening 2+ Ds also allows a 1D opening with 4135, 1435 2425 4225 hand types.

Opening 2Cs with weak clubs is not a good idea in general.

AJxx Qx Ax Jxxxx or Kxxx x AKx Qxxxx are not good 2C openers. :rolleyes:

 

Regards,

Robert

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Robert: I think most people here would agree with you, but 2 with 5/4M or 6 is still what most people would assume if partner in an indy just says "Vanilla Precision, please". FWIW I agree with you.

 

Gerben: It should be 12+ through 15. (Whatever the "+" means :rolleyes: ) Personally I like opening four-card majors in 3rd/4th seat with 11-12 HCPs but we have not discussed this.

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Hello everyone

 

The list appears to read 13-15HCP=1NT. That is what I would have guessed Vanilla Precision would play. I learned Precision from the early red cover hardback(70s ?) which used 13-15 1NT and 11-12HCP opened 1D and rebid 1NT.

 

Many modern versions of Precision use a 14-16 or 15-17 1NT range. 'Book' Precision used the

13-15HCP range.

 

The original CC Wei books played a 4+ diamond opening and 13-15HCP so there was no systemic bid for many 11-12 balanced hands with 2-3 diamonds.

4432 4423 4325 3425 4333 3433 3334 3325

 

Vanilla Precision should not move from the 13-15 range because it is going to confuse people that have read a basic outline of Precision.

 

The 1C-1D-2D does not show 4315, 3415 4414 or 4405 hands. It shows Ds

 

1C-2NT shows 11-13 or 16+(the 16+ version is left out of the notes)

 

The notes beside the 2C opening say 6+ clubs or 'good' 5Cs and 4M. If you play that method you would also play a 2+ diamond or many hands cannot be bid.

 

4225 and 2425 hands without 'good' clubs do not fit any of the opening bids, unless 1D=2+

 

Regards,

Robert

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Hi Robert,

 

Thanks for your review. I will check it through once again to remove the inconsistencies and unclear stuff.

 

The original CC Wei books played a 4+ diamond opening and 13-15HCP so there was no systemic bid for many 11-12 balanced hands with 2-3 diamonds.

4432  4423  4325  3425 4333 3433 3334 3325

That's basically how it works. You can choose to open a decent 12-pointer also depending on vulnerability and such. That's a judgement issue. The important thing is that you don't have a neboulous 1 for balanced hands weaker than the NT range.

 

The 1C-1D-2D does not show 4315, 3415 4414 or 4405 hands.  It shows Ds

Oops, I will correct that.

 

1C-2NT shows 11-13 or 16+(the 16+ version is left out of the notes)

Oops, I will correct that.

 

The notes beside the 2C opening say 6+ clubs or 'good' 5Cs and 4M.  If you play that method you would also play a 2+ diamond or many hands cannot be bid.

4225 and 2425 hands without 'good' clubs do not fit any of the opening bids, unless 1D=2+

With 4225 you have the option of opening 1NT. With 4315 (oops I mean 4135/1435) you have the option of opening 1.

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Hello helene_t

 

I appreciate the time and effort that you are putting into 'writing' down the simple Precision system outline notes. I hope that my comments are taken in the spirt in which they are given. Many thanks.

 

I am also a bridge system builder, so I know how hard it is to make evey little detail correct.

 

I am also a Type A person and I 'have to worry' about tiny details that I cannot change. I still 'have to worry' about them. Just the nature of the beast.

 

I did not 'know' about the 12+ option, when I read 13-15HCP for 1NT. It is certainly a playable option.

 

I have played a lot of Precision variants over several decades. I have played Precsion using a 12+-15 range, it was just not my style since I prefer 'narrower'

NT ranges.

 

Bridge conventions and agreements are a matter of 'style', please do not think that I would suggest any changes to reflect my own style. I am 'way past' mad science in my Precision methods so it is very unlikely that I would ever play a simple Precision method.

 

Best regards,

Robert

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I have updated the FD-file in the first post of this thread.

 

More complete, but still incomplete: in particular, developments after major suit openings are rudimentary but I think "no agreement" will be realistic for many of the intended users :-)

 

I have specified devolopments after 2 and 2 in details since these are specific to (Vanilla) Precision. Some might disagree with the choices I made, feel free to comment.

 

I have included an escape-mechanism after penalty double of 1NT as suggested by Gerben. Also thanx to Robert for finding errors in the previous version. And thanx to all who contributed to the polls and related discussions that have resulted in this FD-file so far and hopefully a more comprehensive one in the future.

 

I have included some conventions that we (more or less) agreed upon which are not specific to Precision (fitbids, transfers, negative doubles).

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I have updated the first post of this topic with most constructive auctions until and including responder's second bid. Some trivial stuf like "false prefence" and such is included: allthough obsolete for the geeks at this forum some users might need it :P

 

There are some details about the forcing character of various rebids that we have not discussed. Feel free 2 criticise.

 

We have not discussed forcing notrump response or not. I have specified the notrump response as forcing but not included any follow-ups.

 

We have not discussed check-back after a 1NT rebid. This has been left blank.

 

I have specified FSF as GF but not included any follow-ups.

 

As for inverted minors: I assume 1-2 is constructive but NF. With a GF hand you will have to fake a club suit. Does everyone agree?

 

Another thing to discuss is support doubles. I have not specified doubles on sandwhich overcalls, I suppose that's an a la card convention that could be added to any system.

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2 as just invite seems like a waste. What you can do is to include 3 to the bids showing fit. If you want to keep this as SJS as some people still play this, use 2 as invite or better.

 

And please, don't ask me questions when I cannot respond because you are in a tournament :P

I would have bid 4 as your partner, your bid was ok.

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Hi everyone

 

Faking a club suit could lead to some very strange(bad?) contracts.

How do you shut down a 1D-2C auction and still show diamond support?

 

If this is vanilla Precision, 1D-2D should be 'forcing' one round.

 

FSF played as GF makes some Precision auctions impossible to bid.

 

What do you do with 10-12HCP and xx or xxx in the 4th suit?

 

Is the xyz convention with 2Cs inv. and 2D played as GF, a possible solution here?

 

The Italian style of FSF forcing to 2NT might allow the bidding of more invitational type hands to be accurate.

 

Support doubles can be divided into two main camps. Optional(which I play) and mandatory which gives partners more information(or a much less accurate sort)

 

Another question is how high to play Support doubles. I play them up to and including 3H(for spades) while many only play them at the two leve.

 

Meckwell plays them to the 4 level, however, they are not known for passing when the auction gets to them. :P

 

Regards,

Robert

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Thanks again, Robert, for your great debugging effort :P

 

Faking a club suit could lead to some very strange(bad?) contracts.

How do you shut down a 1D-2C auction and still show diamond support?

Gerben says that a single diamond raise should be forcing. This solves this problem as well. However, without a forcing raise you will still have to fake a minor suit after a major suit opening.

 

Of course, you can add Jacoby 2NT (or something similar) to this system. This raises a more general question: some of my comments will become obsolote when combined with certain conventions. Should such comments be avoided? Similarly, I don't define doubles that might be support doubles as "penalty", I just leave them undefined.

 

If this is vanilla Precision, 1D-2D should be 'forcing' one round.

Ok, I got it :(

 

FSF played as GF makes some Precision auctions impossible to bid.

True, but FSF as not GF makes it complicated, u need to specify what follow-ups can be passed. Is this more of a problem in Precision than in other systems? Otherwise, maybe I should skip FSF in Precision and make FSF an a la carte convention. But I was afraid that auctions starting with 1 would become messy if FSF is to be adopted from a module based on the assumtion that 1 is natural.

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Btw, what about

1-2

3

and similar? In the poll, a lot of people voted that the forcing character of 2/1 auctions should be "SAYCish", maybe for lack of better alternatives in the poll. So that's what I'm aiming at. However, I think it makes more sense in a Precision context to play this raise as non-forcing. Any thoughts?

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Hi helene t

 

You have been doing the bulk of the work. You deserve the vast bulk of

 

any thanks. Well done. ;)

 

I was just trying to help out a 'little.'

 

Assuming that a player 'knows' that he is playing a 1C* forcing system, s/he

 

should be able to count the number of suits bid 'without' counting the 1C* bid

 

as a natural suit for 4th suit forcing bidding.

 

I learned Blue Team Club system several decades ago and many of their bidding

 

ideas still remain in my current methods.(A Big Club system with 2/1 GF)

 

1M-2D- played as 'forcing' to 2NT allows opener to bid 1M-2D-2M 'waiting' and

 

1M-2D-3D as GF.

 

If you do not play something like this method, the Precision

 

system cannot bid some(many?) normal hand types.

 

1S-2H-3H is still passable.

 

You could switch to a 2/1 GF style, but I am not sure that the system would still be

 

Precision, since 'Precision' opens 11HCP hands and responds with the same 11HCP

 

at the two level.

 

I no longer refer to my Big Club system as Precision 'like' because the only thing

 

left from playing 'book' Precision is the 5 card major opening. :)

 

Regards,

Robert

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True, but computers are less smart than people (at least when "people" refer to Precision players, lol).

 

1-1

1-2* alert! FSF!

 

may be the result if Precision is used with a generic FD-plugin for FSF. Donno if there is a more elegant solution to this than makig FSF dedicated to Precision.

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New update:

- Bug fixes. In particular, it was not clear to me how to specify that continuations after all-seat openings apply in 3rd/4th seat when the latter have only been partially specified. So I have deleted all 3rd/4th-seat-specific openings. This means that it looks as if strong jump shifts apply after a 3rd/4th-seat opening :-( I someone knows how to fix that, feel free to post an improved version.

 

- Contested auctions after our 2/2-openings have been developed.

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