Which means that the next player still has to keep teack of time because if the stopcard is removed to soon and the next player calls immidiatly everyone knows he was just waiting for the card to be removed. No one should be able to tell when the next player thinks 10 seconds has elapsed. He is the only one who can decide when to bid. And if he need two extra seconds when the card is removed that can under no circumstances be UI because you should not be able to tell if he just counted the seconds slowly or actually was thinking. So if the card is removed after 8 seconds and I bid after 12 that is clearly UI only created by the skipbidder. If the card is removed at once and the next player is responsible to time the pause 12 seconds is never UI. To sum it up. Card removed before 10 seconds, next player bids at once, the skipbidder has created UI Card removed to soon, next player bids in a few seconds, the skipbidder has created UI. Card removed at exactly 10 seconds, next player bids after 2-3 more seconds, the skipbidder has created UI.