Very little reponse here to the question of continuing the preempt, so I will try to provoke more relevant answers with specific cases. They are vul, we are not The auction has gone P- 2H - P - You hold x, 10932, Axxx, Jxxx Opponents will almost always be a lock for 4 spades. If partner has a max for his weak 2H, maybe they only make 3S. What do you do? Suppose you hold a much better hand -same bidding. This time, you hold x, 10982, AQxx, xxxx What do you do? Thses are the types of situations I am asking about. I did not find them addressed in the references. I wonder if Mike Lawrence (my "go to" bridge author) has written on this.