Last Sunday me and my partner failed to qualify for the Channel Trophy, a youth even between the juniors schools and girls of the Channel countries France, Belgium, England and the Netherlands. Against an especially youthful partnership (13 and 12) the following happened: [hv=d=n&v=n&n=s432ha943dkj5cj43&w=sq95hqt82da8742c8&e=sk87hk6dq96ckq962&s=sajt6hj75dt3cat75]399|300|Scoring: IMP[/hv] W N O Z - p 1♣ p 1♦ p 1NT p p 2♥ p p X p 3♣ p 3♦ p p p I apologize for the messy auction both in real life and the way it came out in the post :) Now that we discussed this hand we figured X should be for penalties, because one wouldn't want to speculate on a possible 3 card ♠ with p if E has 4 or 5, since it might force you to play 3m like here. Comments are welcome!