Justin, can you spell this out a bit better for me? uhh the second hand is better? Do you really compare 6322 with Jx Jx to the other hand? I don't get it. How about this...if partner passes 2m which hand are you more scared to have? Surely it's the hand with four hearts where you could easily have a fit that you won't find. Lastly, I hope I mentioned that I would always open 1N with the first hand. It's a good hand for NT, it's not a 1D 3D bid.