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  1. and i'm not trying to come off as more than decent. i agree that a lot of non-trivial mistakes aren't easy to catch in the time available between play (and too much consideration just causes for more mistakes on subsequent hands)...but enough are...and as important, and what i spend more time on self-review of during play is the auction...this is easier to do, easier to ask people you trust about quickly, and is really aided by the movie...
  2. for what it's worth, you didn't offend me. the subject matter annoys me, and i have an argumentative nature B)
  3. I never said you lose the information. I said it's a lot harder to access in its other forms, takes longer, is less timely (these are different concepts), etc etc etc... If I really want to improve, talking over every hand over with an expert would be nice, but let's be honest, that's rarely possible. Ignoring what is available to me would be foolish. And if you really think the score is completely irrelevant, well then frankly you have no clue. It's not great, it's probably not even good, but it is not at all devoid of information. But I don't rely on the score, I don't give a damn about the score. That would be why I refused the offer to reset when I was -25. I care about the fact that others seem to care about the score, it's a very poor reflection on them and I'd prefer not to have them as my opponents, but if I must, I will do so on my terms, and not reset the MOVIE, because that I care about.
  4. You asked for it Jon. Ask me to open my mouth and you get a book. I am completely in agreement with jmc (except that point 4 just isn't right, the only way to get an accurate mid-session score is to add up your results unless all previous boards have been played 16 times). I want to be able to look at the hands I've played. I want to know my score for the session that I've chosen to care enough to sit down and host a table for. And frankly, I get bothered by the ridiculous requests people make. Countless times I have played against 2 players where one did some stupid things, achieved some horrible results, and the other player left in frustration. That's fine, I get that. But then another player comes along to fill out the table, and the original player, the one who earned the bad results, asks for a score reset! I would understand a lot more if the new player did. But even then, this is my table and my session. Promise me you'll stick around for 10 boards and I'll reset the score just for you. But if you don't, don't plan on coming back to my table. I can also testify to the fact that people just don't ask for resets when they come in with a positive score. It happens all the time, and if you paid attention you could testify to it as well. Last night my partner and I earned our way quickly to -25 and stayed there for a while. Four or five people came in and no one asked for a reset (duh!)...I was completely floored when about person 5 said to me "you can reset the score finally." It was a tacit acknowledgment that people just don't ask when they start with a big plus. I turned him down with the explanation that seeing my previous hands was more important to me than the score. What's really annoying is that many many times I have been looking at the last board, the one I just finished playing, when a new player sits and asks for a reset. I don't respond right away because I'm still looking at the board, so they ask again, and then start to get snitty, or just leave. For a long time I usually responded positively to these requests, but far too often people did this, asking 2 and 3 times and rudely while I'm looking...it really put me off of honoring these requests. There are several fallacious arguments in this thread: 1) Jumpers might stick around if I were willing to reset the score. No way. Everyone here has reset, only to have people leave after 2 or 3 boards, dozens of times. The fact is that the same attitudes lead to both: for some reason, even in the relatively anonymous environment of BridgeBase, players care what others think. They come in with a positive score and don't ask for a reset, they come in with a negative score and they do. 2-3 boards later they do something stupid and run. Jumpers jump because they don't care to take the game or its players seriously. My resetting the score isn't going to change this. 2) That's what the hand records on my computer are for! Whatever. The hand records on my computer, and online, are nice. But the MOVIE is there for instant recall. I shouldn't have to waste time navigating around the web or my c:/"bridge base online" folder to find the hands I just played. And even though I know how to do that, odds are that my partner doesn't (even on bbo we all know most people aren't computer literate), so I simply lose all ability to reference the previously played hands. Furthermore, my computer doesn't keep the traveler, and in neither situation do I get the instant update as new scores come in. The only one that does all this is the MOVIE. And <b>Trumpace</b>, whether or not the IMP score is a good yardstick in the main bridge club or not doesn't speak at all to the point. People care about it, even though it's not any good. People still ask for score resets based (almost solely) on its sign. Jmc didn't say it was good, the most he said was that he cares to know it...over the long haul, say 50 boards, being 20 or 30 plus is still generally indicative of a decent session, and being 20 or 30 minus still generally indicative of a poor. It's certainly not so bad as to be completely irrelevant, and all jmc asked for was the ability to know that much.
  5. I'm kind of surprised that I finally bothered to sign up for the forums in order to make this complaint; but whatever. Recently I've seen a couple of commentators on the VuGraph who have "private" listed for name. I object, seriously. If bridgebase is clearing these people to give "expert analysis," (I'm not even going to comment on that), we vugraph vuers should be able to know who they are. It might seem small and nitpicky to you, but I don't think it is. Hiding bad analysis behind anonymity is annoying.
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