Hi, I am Adi (adibichea) BIL member, hope to resolve this problem. 1. W hand, aprox. distribution .. the points are correct ♠Kx ♥Axxx ♦Axx ♣xxxx 11HCP, that shows DBL E hand, aprox distribution and points ♠xxx ♥xxx ♦x ♣AQxxxx 6HCP, showd in 3rd round. If E have 7♣'s with 6HCP, i am sure he bid 3♣ or even more. 2. after 3rd round, i play a small ♠ to J to test if ♠distribution is 2-3 or 3-2. if distribution is 4-1 or 1-4 i have no chance to make the contract. And i can't make the contract if ♣ is 5-5 even if trump are 3-2. Supose trump stay 3-2 or 2-3, and ♣ 4-6, or whateva, but not 5-5 After i win with J♠, i play a small ♦ to K to promote my ♦, now only losers is 1♠, 1♦ and 1♥. I don't play trump from my hand. exception: ruff. If W win with A♦ and play another ♣ (final club) I ruff it, and now play the ♦ to QJ of dummy hand (or finesse if E have void in ♦) ... and play diamond's to force E or W to ruff(final opposite trump). If E ruff the ♦, he play ♣ .. now ruff club and play another ♦ or ♥. and now the contract is done. I am thinking correctly? Regards, AdiBichea .. and intermediate player.