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There is a little known local system called nottingham club played by many at my local club and they have 1♦ as 12-15pts, with no diamonds shown, just a point count.

Thank you awm, you're right c.c. wei "precision bidding system in bridge" is available from an amazon seller. Thank you.

This may not be the right forum for it but can someone explain precision to me, just the basics. Could anyone give me a web address for an overview of the system and if possibe a good book on it. I'm intrigued but know nothing of it, thank you.

Thanks all for you help you've deffinitely given me something with which to work with especially from helene's post very useful thanks. For mcphee "normal partner" means the partner I play with at club level, i.e. not on BBO. Thanks again everyone for your comments and any more are welcomed. To all those who say acol is superior to sayc thank you, i may very well find that to be true but it does no harm to widen my horizons. Thanks again for all your comments.

Hi all thanks for reading... I am a former acol converted to sayc after a few practise hands on BBO. I am hoping to introduce it to my normal partner and possibly adopt it over acol but i could use some advice. I have only ever played a very basic sayc online but if I was to play it with my partner I would hope to improve my knowledge of the system. So therefore I ask you for any advice on playing sayc you can give me. What conventions are commonly played with sayc and any interesting variations I might want to try. In my limited experience I have found overcalls a problem and I have often had to pass on a hand I would have overcalled on with no qualms in acol, so any convention giving a wider range to hands open to overcall on would be especially useful. Thank you in advance

Thanks all especially walddk very helpful.

I am looking to learn the standard french bidding system and I was wondering if anyone knew a suitable website with a good convention card for sef. Something akin to thebridge club live convention cards.