Exactly, Roland. And there within lies the crux of the problem. That is what the on site audience took real exception to, was the implication that proud nations such as Scotland, Wales, Eire and Northern Ireland were there as cannon fodder. It is also what we, the players, took exception to hearing, as we love this competition, and the more we can forge a strong partnership with the "home nations", the more chance there is of getting youngsters from all parts involved in our wonderful game. I think some of the comments just came out badly in type - I do not for one moment think that they were intended to be hurtful/disrespectful to the other nations and the other players at the JC & PB. It was a wonderful weekend, wonderfully covered by BBO. Let's just draw a line at that, shall we, and hope that it continues both as a fabulous tournament in its own right, and as a partnership with BBO for many years to come. Simon