Partners 3♥ shows ~8-10 with 4♥ sometimes 5♥. and is not forcing! I my opinion 3NT now showed 19-21 HCP and a good S stop and no 4H... ... just what i have. Some have the meaning that a 3NT now is just a scrab to NT, telling partner that my double was no double and now i want to play 3NT as he showed some live. there is no way to do this. If you have a 3crd♥ Double then you have to live with this. Other methods do not work! you have to limit your responses over a double (0-7 no jump, 8-10 jump, 11+Q-bid) and so you need a little disciplin in doubling. Salokin