Rhutobello

with eggs to all contenders

teathre in the zoo section

would be ruffed with club 2

mentor for bridge culture on

Hi Mirjam_3 :lol: Well aren't we lucky who have discovered BBO :) I agree on all points with you, in fact I think the BBO software is almost perfect, and when we think that they provide it to us for free, then my rating is :P :P :D :D :D > :D out of 3 :D Have a nice day all :lol: Edvin

I think we can see the begining of a new Bulgarien millionare.....or maybe Lotto is the easier way B) Just kidding Misho, and don't let us stop you, if you manage it, your future is secure B) Good luck Edvin

I shall not start a long thesis whay we shall allow kibitzers, because that is alredy done :) , on the other hand I will ask like Free, "why must we close a board for kib?" Give us a good reason, then maybe we can understand such a stand. But when you do don't just throw out popular statement like cheating and chatting. Give us in the same statement the prof how often have you catched a cheater, how often must you ban a "talker" and so on. When you give us this proof, and we might all see that most of your turnys become destroyed from cheaters and talkers and then we might understand the call for banning kib from your turnys ;) Have a nice day :) Edvin

Sounds strange to me, even if I play artific club in the same way, denay 5 major or 4 desant diamond with 1 club. But maybe he has found something in Richard's "symmentri def" that we havn't :D (just kidding) And a nice day to you all :D Edvin

uhmmm, and I who only wanted to have some relax time among friends :rolleyes: (just kidding) I can see there still are tons to learn :D thx Have a nice day all :D Edvin

Yep, there can be, BUT let me try to give my option of this. First, with 2 partners that have worked together in a long time, know what is going on and the way it works today is fine. But when you have pick up partners, or partner on no regular basis then the case is something else. When you play brigde and give a call, you know what you will say with the bid. But the question is, do partner? When we advocat self exp as a great advantage on Bridge play I dissagree. As long as only O are able to recive this information, you give away information that maybe (in lots of cases) partner don't have, and he/her is responding out from what he/her think the call is. That is the important information! That is the call he will give and act from, that's why we have a lot of missunderstanding. I agree that partner that has no common agreement don't have to alert their bidding. But in many cases O ask me what my call are, and since I am a polite man I give them it freely :D But time and time agein P has belived it is something else, that's why I think it is wrong. Some days ago I kib a "world class player" that always ask for exp world class players to attend. He had no info in his profile over what he has as common bids. Well he opend in 2 d, the calls goes all around with all particepating. At last his p put the contract in 5 D (he had best D) The world class player then said he had played multi 2 d, with weak hearts,kicked P out and asked for redeal. Is this the way we shall do it :angry: Agein I advocat an option to let all 4 on the table to see all alerts and the expl. For us lowerplayer it will be a great help.....and maybe for som wc players too :D Have a nice day Edvin

with drums and trumpet I join the chorus :D Good luck to you Ben and to the rest of the yellows to catch "all those madmans" that's lurking around BBO's corridoes, and if you don't see them take a game instead(just kidding) ;) Have a nice day all :D Edvin

Hey all, for the last two post I have some comment :) 1) You really need "community menager" with full rights and diplomatic talant, who love BBO enough to sacrifice his time to do this job. Probably same person is not so hard to find, if you look menagment of previous conflict... Abilty to menage large mass of unruly people is part of his job, hehe And he is already volunteer too A nice thought, but don't ask for it B) As soon as this manager is employed, he/she will get every little quarrel on his/her table. The manager and his helper will soon be burned out. The cry for a new manager will start. No one willing on a free basis. What next..... :blink: 2) From Uday We don't have anyone who is the "community manager" My primary work is development, then abuse, etc. Here I will say development is enough, both for Fred and Uday! So if we want to help, I suggest that we ask them if they want us to form a commite, 3-5 people from different countrys, that try to solve missunderstandings, abuse, quarrels and so on, on a free basis, and after rules given from BBO. This is just thoughts, but I am sure some of us will help out if asked :D Have a nice day :lol: Edvin

Maybe I shot some overhead here, but I will agein try to give my feelings :lol: 1) how many players attend BBO each hours of the day? from 750 - 4000 2) How many cheaters do you think there are logged on? how great odds is't to run into a cheater? 3) If you play with a cheater and loose, how much must you pay, or what do you not recive? Is this loss enough for you to ban kib, when you know that you then also ban yourself? 4) When do we play with a "cheater"? In my opinion if you play ageinst Op that never can learn you anything, but still win over you all the time. If you play ageinst such O, mark him, and make comments "can't learn me anything, just a vaste of time, no fun either :angry: " Now when you have mark him, how great odds is to get a new one in the near future? :huh: I think the way to go is not to ban Kib...we all know there are shop lifters, but we don't close our shop in order to get rid of that. On the other hand, if you start to ban kib because of cheating, you make the problem much bigger, because we will belive that it is a real problem with BBO, and many will leave because there are so many cheatres there. I have also start to notice that more and more tables are locked for kib in main brigdeclub. Normaly I would never kib them, but now the suddently are more interesting :P What do you feel? We must all have an eye on the "small problem". Mark it yourself, but never accuse one before you are 150% secure that you are right. Hopfully Uday and Fred still improve the programs abillity to catch cheaters, in the meantime have fun :) :) Have a nice day :lol: Edvin

Agree on all account when it comes to kibbitz :( I think talking about cheating...don't allow kibbitzer because you are afreid of cheating. and so on..just have on big drawback "You destroy the fun of the game" I don't belive there are THAT much cheating...but if we all talk all the time about it, our BRAIN and our EGO will se it every time we make our own dumb mistakes. Take the fun back...play BRIDGE and accept that someone are a bit more lucky then you B) Have a nice day Edvin

Hei what have happen to my twin B) Have she cut our bond....or have she found out that she had another father....or was it mother...what both?...what new suit or XX....i don't know....but I can give you all a smile :P Have a nice day :o Edvin