I think it does help. When the basic is automatic, then the defender gets the habt of counting shape without even thinking, and he can do the thinking about more complicated stuff (counting tricks, inferences, honor locations). I think it helps advanced and lesser developed players. When I use it, it just sends me back too far and I forget the other stuff. Guess I'm claiming to be better than advanced...somehow... I hate when Mom starts talking about me at two years old in front of company. The drooling...the drooling...