I chose a title of "evaluation" for this quiz, because i think that's exactly the key word here for our discussion. The main difference between 3S and 4D advocates, in my opinion, is how they evaluate this 4612 shape and it's 2A's. 4D= I like the hand, but i still need some help in H and C suit if pd has opened a minimum hand. 4S will be a good spot if pd choose to stay there. 3S= I would still painfully doubt whether I should pass or not, when pd retreated to 4S after a 4D splinter. As WHEREEAGLES puts it: "in fact, the hand is so strong after 1♠ that it only requires us to know ONE thing about pard's hand: does he have club control? " I like Ben's version of a "delayed splinter" here: strength mostly in Spades and Hearts, and no first and second control in club. But the question is, does 4D promise a SIX-card heart suit with AQJ? For example, if pd holds KQxxx x Kxx Axxx, or Kxxxxx x KQx Axx, pretty good slam and we should reach it, but pd quite unlikely to advance after my 4D, unless he knows the length in my suit. The sixth heart makes a significant difference in how good the slam is. After 3S, I can check club controls, I can check HK, I can check keycards and trump Q using RKC ... the price is we must go to 5 level, on a bad day pd might go down 1 there (with serious 3NT, some players will probably pass after a 3S 4C 4D 4S sequence, I believe many will still keep going on). Bye the way, 3S has an additional benefit: it doesn't show first lead to opps so clearly as 4D does. When pd holds something like Kxxxx xx AQx Axx, both 3S and 4D will take us to 6H, you surely hope they will lead a diamond instead of a club. So, I'm on the 3S side. This is a 5.5-loser hand and it's VERY strong in my eyes. I'm willing to pay the price of stopping at 5 level, in order to reach a good slam when 4D will fail under some layouts. The actual hand pd held in real life will not be offered. This is a BBS discussion, not a match after all. Dont want anyone here be influenced by that scoreboard. :P