They say the difference between a serial killer and your bridge partner is that you can reason with the serial killer. My partner and I would agree with them (probably one of the few things we would agree about). Both of us learned to play (separately) about 40 years ago. I didn't play for the past 35 and while he has played a considerable amount of kitchen bridge during those 35 years his bidding methods didn't change a whole lot. And neither of us were experts back then anyway. Now we are playing duplicate and actually doing very well thank you. But apart from our occasional (read many) lapses in esoteric matters like remembering the bidding, card counting, and play of the cards, the part of our game that sucks is our bidding. We pretty much play Standard American with a few somewhat old and grotesque variations. Both of us are stubborn as hell (old goats might fit) and neither of us feel like putting an enormous amount of effort into learning a new system (SAYC seems about 2 steps too far). However it is somewhat embarrasing explaining to opponents that his 4 hearts opening means one thing whereas mine means another. Or that his 4 clubs opening is Gerber while mine is pre-emptive (not really but you're getting the drift). We need a book (2) giving a SIMPLE everyday interpretation of Standard American that we can agree on (which is a very tall order) but that is competitive enough to allow us to start consistently placing high in the "B" strata at tournaments. Any thoughts? And while you're at it - how do I move him off the firm idea that any jump shift over my opener should show opening points? And that Gerber is sheer genius? And that cue bidding was invented by the devil? Thanks in advance, PCB