Thanks, so is this reasonable - with support for M, responder counts shortages in their points 1M 2m 3m - invitational, 10-12 points, 3+ card support for M 1M 2m 2M - 6-9 points, 3+ card support for M 1M 2m 2NT - 11/12 points with stopper, balanced with exactly 2 cards in M 1M 2m 3M/4M - preemptive, 0-5 points, 4/5 card support for M 1M 2m double - negative double 8+ points ================================== If the overcall is 2H, i.e. partner opened 1S - responder bids as above but 3H is the cue bid, invitational in spades ============================================ If the overcall is 1S i.e. partner opened 1H - responder bids as above but 2S is now invitational in hearts ============================================ If the overcall is a jump in spades, no room to cue 1H 2S 3H - invitational in hearts, 3+ card support 1H 2S 2NT - 1.5 stops in spades, 2 card hearts, 11/12 points 1H 2S double - both minors, 11+ points 1H 2S 3m - natural, good 5 card suit?, 11+ points ============================================ If the overcall is 1NT (15 - 18 points) 1M 1NT 2M - 6-9 points, 3+ card support 1M 1NT 3M - 10-12 points, 3+ card support