Czbornik

I am older than you and neither have I (except for when I had to pass it to graduate from college). Meanwhile the Chinese are teaching calculus to 3rd graders and we (Americans) are teaching 3rd graders that men can have babies. I find it totally illogical.

"Gender studies" is much less worthwhile than calculus. For that matter, "gender studies" is much less worthwhile than "agriculture".

I know I said I was leaving but, before Elvis leaves the building, I am compelled to thank you for your comment. FWIW, I just read in the last day or so that Wyoming has enacted a law banning Mifepristone. I think that stinks. But I can do nothing about it other than wish I had a vote in the state of Wyoming.

I will leave this conversation with these thoughts: 1. I have read the entire Constitution of the United States at least three times. 2. I have read the 14th Amendment more than that. 3. I have read nothing in either of them that grants a woman the "right" to an abortion. 4. I have no problem with "my body, my choice". 5. "My choice" should also include "my consequences". 6. Neither the states nor the feds should outlaw abortion outright. If it's available, it should be available (with limits). 7. Neither I nor any other taxpayer should have to pay for it. If a woman makes the "choice" she (or her sperm donor) should be prepared to pay for the consequences except for cases of rape or incest.

I respect your opinion. I hope you will forgive me for not sharing it.

What Kenberg said.

By Jove, I think you have broken the code!

This is a feeble argument. I have said repeatedly that a woman should have the right to terminate a pregnancy before the fetus becomes viable. I don't think she should have the right to have the fetus's spinal cord clipped as it comes out of the womb. That, in my opinion, is barbaric.

As previously stated, I am not opposed to abortion per se; therefore I am not opposed to "morning after" pills. I hope the judge in this case rules in favor of the defendants and if it gets to the SCOTUS I hope they uphold his ruling.

No I wouldn't. I am not opposed to abortion. I am opposed to abortion without limits. And I think those limits should be set by the states, not the feds.

May be. But it's also the position of the SCOTUS. I yield to their wisdom.

Yes, I've read a little about that proposed law. As I understand it, it would ban all abortions past 15 weeks' gestation. That sounds reasonable on the surface (surely a woman can make a decision about terminating her pregnancy within 3 1/2 months), but I would be opposed to any federal law regulating abortion. Abortion is a very touchy issue (VERY touchy) and I think the SCOTUS got it right when they returned that issue to the states. Californians can do as they like, Texans can do as they like, the voters can register their pleasure or displeasure at the ballot box.

This is a very flimsy argument in my opinion. According to the 2020 census California had 39,512,223 population, Wyoming had 578,759. California had two senators; Wyoming had two senators. At the same time Texas had 28,995,881 population, Vermont had 623,989. Texas had two senators; Vermont had two senators. I really can't buy the argument that the people in Wyoming are more determined to piss off Californians than people in Vermont are determined to piss off Texans. As for "all the women in every state are held hostage by the whims of the minority", as I see it the SCOTUS returned the right to abortion to the elected officials of the states.....who are elected by the MAJORITY. In my view that means the elected officials in California can legalize abortion up to partial birth if they so choose. The two senators from Wyoming don't really have a say about it.

Here I disagree to some extent. "secular" is defined as "of or relating to worldly things or to things that are not regarded as religious, spiritual, or sacred". I will agree that "religious, spiritual, or sacred" should be not be taught in the public schools system. My offspring have long since been out of public schools (thankfully). However, if I currently had children in the public schools I would be deeply concerned about modern-day curricula.

I agree wholeheartedly. It's almost as bad as Vermont having the same voting power as Texas.