John, I agree that many players fail to correctly identify their skill level. Some do it from ego (i.e. they have been playing bridge for 20 years, so they must be expert!?) or they dont realize that they are week in some area of bidding or play. Anytime you allow people to evaluate themselves, inaccuracies will exist. With that said I believe that self evaluation is the best system to keep the enviornment friendly and reduce cheating. I believe that having more levels would reduce the inacuracy. people who believe they are better than the average intermediate would have an option instead of simply listing themsevles as advanced, they could pick intermediate + or advanced - (or maybe something more original ;) ). The automation I recomended does not solve inacurate ratings, nor does it try to. The system I proposed would help players find and play games of the correct level. Because BBO is growing so rapidly the number of empty seats makes it difficult to pick a good table without reading 50 profiles. By the time you figure out what table was best someone else has taken the seat. One answer that has been suggested on different threads is to create multiple main rooms of different skill levels. I believe that would be very exclusionary, and also very rigid. If you want to start a table but would prefer no beginers, do you start it it intermediate advanced or expert room. If you want a friendly game but dont want the presure of playing against experts, again what room do you pick. if you are really looking for advanced game you should be able to set that too. With so many criteria that people use for a desired game, breaking up the main room does not seem like a good solution to me. Flagging and filtering the list of tables in the main room, would allow a much more flexable solution. Although this requires some programming effort, adding skill min/max values to table setup should not be difficult, and the skill levels already exist. So the main programming effort would involve marking seats in the lobby and adding a filter. I realize Fred and Uday are very busy working on other enhansements, but I beleve the more BBO grows the greater the need will become for a feature like the one I described. --brian