@FrancesHinden: if duck the ♦ lead, then I think West better continue K♣ and not a ♥. I think that you will never make it this way. @inquiry: so you duck the ♦ lead as previously, still ♥ continuation, and duck a club? Well, East will win because West won't cover with the K. Then East will lead a ♦, and West will discard his K♣ to make sure you can't endplay him. You will never make it this way. @FrancesHinden: as I was saying... if you will duck a ♣, East will continue a ♦ so West can discard his K♣. Same defense pattern. Thank you, and... take your time... :)