Responder Canapes work great, you get a great deal of additional information at low level. Would you prefer 1S-2H or 1S-2C-2D-2H? Wide range NT works great IF you make 1NT 13-14 with clubs or 15-17 any balanced. Responses 2C=8-11, 2D=12+ After 1NT-2C 2D=3=3=3=4 13-14, 2H-3=3=2=5 13-14, 2S 16-17 balanced, 2NT= 15 balanced. After 2S or 2NT stayman and transfers Your right, BC 2D unnecessary Play Multi instead Your right BC 3C opening unnecessary Game forcing 2/1 unnecessary. BC style jump-shift in minors and reverse by responder replace. Now 1S-2H is invitational. Like all 2 level response, forcing to 2NT Your right 1major-2NT better used as Jacoby A semi forcing 1NT response to 1major is basically what BC plays. Opener only passes with min. balanced hand. I play that 2H/2S openings Show 5 card suit and a 4-5 card minor. A 2H opening may contain 4 spades. These bids remove most of the 5cd major openings from 1H/1S, except for balanced hands. Alex aknox@nucleus.com