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Pokud mi nevadi riziko, ze spadnu dvakrat: Preju na stul srdci (co kdyby nahodou byl singl kral srdcovej na vychode, byl bych za blbecka... Trumfnu damou, hraju kara shora, impas proti trumfum. Kdyz sedi, splnim bez ohledu na bocni rozlohy. Druha alternativa je sedici srdce s puvodni rozlohou 4 west 2 east, ale to by si asi west netroufnul odhodit srdci, kdyz (odhaduju, ze jsem v drazbe srdce stihl rict) ma nejspis bezpecnou trefu.

I'd say it's a reasonable attempt - partner could be able to figure out the spade void - and with good values in the side suits go for the slam. I'd even say "nice try" if 5♥ goes one down :(

Declarer mistake IMHO. He should inquire about your carding agreements and visualize the club position. (As in "the club switch is NOT likely to be from KJ10x as declarer has spade points and diamond points AND is obeying a signal from his almost broke partner). So, with this information, go up with ace and finesse west for club 10. Defenders did a good job (looking at the table and basically asking partner whether he has a diamond honor or not :lol:)

Our way to 6♣ (yes, we made it <_<, but with a lot of mistakes :))) 1♥ 2♣ (GF or good 6card) 2♦ - 4 card, no extras promised 2♠ - GF 3♥ - that was a mistake :), the only bid that promises no extra length 4♣ - do something 4♦ - cuebid 4[NT] - Blackwood 5♥ - 2 out of 5 (obviously interested in diamonds :)) 6♣ - let's hope he passes this :) normally we could end in diamonds or notrump 1♥-2♣ 2♦-2♠ 3♦-4♦ (3♦ promises 5-5 or more, 4♦ is a slam try) 4♥-4♠ 4NT-5♥ (2 from 5 without the queen of ♦) 6♦ - and now I think that I COULD bid 6NT on the assumption that along with my 8 black tricks, 4 tricks can come from either red suit.

I'll probably get a lot of laughs here, but I pass. 1) Too good for 1#2 preempt 2) No shape outside diamonds 3) If player opens, I can bid 3NT and he'll get the general idea <_< 4) If opponents open, odds are that they end up in a lousy notrump contract :). Half of the time I'll be in the position to go for +200 easily, other half of the time there's at least a possibility to double 3NT if that makes partner lead the right suit, plus if my LHO is the strong one, odds are that partner could get in just once with his 4-6HCP and by that time see what is the right suit to lead, +300 More for no. 3) - I don't want to play 3NT unless my partner has anything like a full opener. I need three sure and reasonably quick tricks from him - and it's unlikely that he would have them if he fails to find a bid.

What about a simple 1♣-3♥-5♣-pass-6♣? Of course it's a bit risky, but the one that jumps to 5♣, denies the following: 1) 5+ spades 2) 5+ diamonds 3) 4spades and 3(4) diamonds 4) heart stopper So, he's left with clubs and diamonds - and that gives the opening hand a good probability that 6CL will be a good idea <_< Yes, it could turn out as a disaster against a weak NT hand with just three clubs :) - but unless you play 4♣ in any such situation as strong, and if you play x as negative, there's no easy way to bid, unless 4♦ would not guarantee a 5card.

[hv=s=sakxxxxhj10xxxxdxc]133|100|[/hv] Partner zahaji silnym bezem. Zadne specialni dohody nemate. Napadaji me nasledujici moznosti: 1) transfer do srdci a nasledne splinter. Najdu sice trefove vylouceni, ale zas muzu minout pikovej fit 2) transfer do srdci, pak opakovat piky, dokud to partnerovi nedojde :). Pak zase ale nenajdu trefovy vylouceni. 3) skok v pikach rovnou?

I'll double. We have values and noone may have a suit. If it continues 3♣ - p - p, I'll have to contribute 3♥. Since 3♥ immediately would be GF with a reasonable suit, partner will know that my suit can be a bit lousy...

[hv=d=s&v=n&s=sa5hj3dakqjxxxcxx]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv] Zahajite 1♦, partner odpovi 1NT, RHO dava kontra... Prislo mi v tuhle chvili jako dobry napad s 8 zdvihy v ruce rict 3NT a doufat, ze u partnera jeden zdvih najdu :). Smutny pribeh ale teprve zacina - LHO na moje 3NT rika 4♠... no, ze vzteku jsem dal kontra, spadlo to jednou, vsichni bohuzel hraji 5♦. Partner ma: [hv=d=s&v=n&s=sa5hj3dakqjxxxcxx]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv] Co bylo kde spatne? Mame jen pokrcit rameny a pogratulovat souperum k pekne obrane? (To jsem udelal...)

Jdes trochu pozde :P - myslim, ze uz jsme si to davno vyrikali ;). Jo, neurazim se, obzvlast kdyz mas pravdu :). Kdyz budu mit 2NT s fitem, nemam az takovy problem. (Ale na druhou stranu, sled je to mozna vykonstruovanej, ale kdyz se pres nej dozvim to, co potrebuju, tak je to snad jedno, ne? :) - vim, ze davat negativni kontra s fitem je prasarna, ale v tehle partii bych moc rad nasel druhej fit a karovy vylouceni - pak by tam mohl ten slam byt...)

No ja to hraju obecne NF - v paraku spis 5-9, v tymaku spis tech 7-11 :P.

Ja bych se Lebensohla nebal - urcite to nemuze byt mysleno prirozene, partner neni ani jednobarevny, takze ten, co daval kontra, ted bude muset nabidnout nakou barvu... cekam, ze rekne 3 trefy s trilistem a 3 kara bez trilistu trefovyho (kdyz nechce hrat 3 trefy)...

[hv=d=n&s=sxxxhajxxxdqxxxxc]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv] Partner zahaji 1♣, RHO zasahne 1♠. Hrajete standard s delsi/horsi levnou a silnym NT. Mate nasledujici domluvy: Po zasahu 2/1 non-forcing (5-9) Negat kontra on 6 HCP. Co budete drazit?

Dusane, opravdu mam pocit, ze se porad dopoustis zbytecnych generalizaci. 1) hlaska je uchylna -> autor je uchylny. 2) hlaska je uchylna -> konvence je uchylna. Ani jedno z toho opravdu neni na miste. Bod 1) jsme uz vyresili, takze se podivame na 2). - v reakci na konkretni drazebni sled "hlaska je uchylna" nepochybne PATRI k tomuto sledu v celem jeho kontextu, nikoliv k pouziti nejake drazebni techniky. Pokud by misanek chtel rict "splintry jsou uchylne", urcite by to dokazal zformulovat tak, aby to bylo jasne. - uchylnost te hlasky je pro me v dane situaci dana predevsim tim, ze ta karta NESPLNUJE podminky splinteru. Splinter (aspon pokud si pamatuju z 90strankove knizky s nazvem Splinters) slibuje dobry (=dlouhy) fit. Kdyz bys zahajeni 1NT partnera dal transfer se ctyrlistem a nekdo ti tu hlasku zkritizoval, prohlasil bys, ze jsou tedy podle nej transfery uchylne? (Je to zamerne trochu prehnany priklad). Ja mam splintery rad, taky je jeste obcas udelam se trilistem, ale pouze ve vyjimecnych pripadech, kdy nevidim jinou cestu, jak vubec vydrazit spravny zavazek, nez se vedome odchylit od systemu. V tomhle konkretnim pripade jsou i jine alternativy, ktere me nenuti drazit neco, co nemam, tudiz tuhle alternativu povazuji za uchylnou (a to jak ve smyslu odchyleni od systemu, tak i v tom pejorativnim smyslu - proc dobrovolne lhat partnerovi?) K vytrhavani z kontextu: Kontext v tomto pripade (diskusni vlakno rozebirajici jednu konkretni partii) je CELA PARTIE! Pokud neni receno jinak, predpokladej jako kontext celou partii. Tedy - v diskusnim vlakne o konvencich by tebou citovana veta samozrejme byla utokem na konvenci splinter, v diskusnim vlakne o jedne partii je tahle veta utokem na konkretni (a nekorektni) aplikaci teto konvence. Taky bych zduraznil, ze by mne mrzel kazdy ucastnik, ktery ubyde - ale zduraznil bych, ze by me mrzelo predevsim to, ze nekdo odejde kvuli zbytecnym nedorozumenim - a myslim si, ze obe vyse uvedene generalizace (a spatne vnimani kontextu) opravdu nejsou nic jineho, nez nedorozumeni. Nema to co delat s generaci nebo respektovanim nazoru - tedy az na to, ze mladsi generace holt pouziva ostrejsi slova - ale kdyby misanek misto uchylna rekl spatna, nesmyslna nebo cokoliv jineho, porad by to nemenilo nic na faktu, ze mluvil o konkretnim pouziti te hlasky v tehle partii, nikoliv o splinterech obecne nebo o Tvem charakteru obecne.

No, v tomhle konkretnim pripade se uchylnost hlasky vyvraci/dokazuje docela snadno :D - pouziti splinteru je v odborne literature vzdy svazano s dobrym (mysleno dlouhym) fitem. V situaci, kdy ti zdatni souperi stihnou jednou az dvakrat trumfnout, nez dokazes snapnout prvni trefu, ztraci dany list na sile, protoze partnerovi pokryje pouze 1-2 zdvihy v trefech (ze statisticky ocekavaneho 3-4listu u partnera). Ja osobne jsem o uchylnosti teto hlasky pevne presvedcen (a to z pozice cloveka, ktery ji v ne tak uplne davne minulosti mnohokrat pouzil, nemaje nactenu patricnou literaturu ). Pouzil jsem spojeni "zcela urcite" prave proto, ze uz jsem si mockrat nabehnul a kdyz to nahodou bylo dobre, tak jen diky nejake shode okolnosti (napr. souper na vynosu nemel trumf apod)... Vyvratit uchylnost hlasky lze normalnimi argumenty. Je uplne jedno, jake pridavne jmeno pro oznaceni te hlasky pouziju... uchylna, spatna, mis-informujici, co ja vim... Sam rikas, ze s misankovymi argumenty souhlasis, pouze se Ti nelibi pouzite pridavne jmeno - tudiz nevim, proc bys chtel uchylnost te hlasky najednou vyvracet. Doufam, ze se dokazes smirit s ponekud agresivnejsim slovnikem nasi generace a nevytratis se.