Thanks - much appreciate the bidding review. Pickup game last night with some good opps. Will review this some more. We certainly had no complex bidding tools available to us. I just wanted to get to game - no invite. Thought my hand well worth it - since I bid 5S. That all may be wrong, and I certainly take my lumps. I have come around to the third line (which I erroneously thought was blocked). Here is the decisions as I see it. Cards: KJ109 Play low Play low West East Play Q Duck Take Ace, return club KJ10 9 W W L KJ9 10 W L L K109 J W L L J109 K L W W 9 KJ10 L L W 10 KJ9 L L W J K109 L W W K J109 W W W 4 Wins 4 wins 5 wins At the table I was concentrating on 4 clubs and a diamond, losing 2 clubs, while 3 diamonds and 2 clubs is good, losing 1 club and 1 diamond. It was a fun hand- thanks for taking the time.