Helen, I gave u ave not because of the points range but because of the shape. You forgot to mention also that it was a tourney with 50 tables and i have had no CoTD.This is a good lesson for me..for further tourneys.Maybe i should just play and let the others play in main when no other tourneys runs,or not making such large tourneys,no matter how much people are asking me to increase number. I will look if i have saved chat..it was about SHAPE not points.If i was wrong I'm sorry,and i'll think twice(or more) before thinking at others instead playing. Thank you