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Personally, I will allow you and your partner to modify anything, no problem with that at all. However, to be universal, bids have to be standardized. I hope that is what I am achieving. :rolleyes:

As for opening 2NT, it is rather an open bid really, for further development. We used it for Minors, but got slaughtered by major bidding opps, especially when they become declarer and know our exact distribution. Now we only use it for minors as a Blind cry for help, asking partner to please make a sac if necessary. B-)

2 Spade Openings Control Precision Opening Bids The Multi Two Diamond Shows ♠ and another, 5-5 or better, with 7-11 Hcp. This opening forms an integral and to be used with and as part of the Multi 2♦. Blind Bidder 2♠ 7-11 Hcp. 5♠ and 5 of any suit, it may be a better hand than 5-5 of course, but not worse. Control Bidder Pass……. of Course Unsafe to Bid. 2NT Weak Unsafe to Bid........ *It works as a strong relay too 3♣ Pass (if ♣) or Bid 2nd suit. Unsafe to Bid. 3♦ Long with ♦ Safe to Bid......... *then this changes 3♥ Safe to Bid. 3NT To Play 3♠ Advance on Pre-empt Unsafe to Bid 4♠ To Play Phew note the complications. B-)

2 Heart Openings Control Precision Opening Bids The Multi Two Diamond Shows ♥ and a minor, 5-5 or better, with 7-11 Hcp. This opening forms an integral and to be used with and as part of the Multi 2♦. Blind Bidder 2♥ 7-11 Hcp. 5♥ and 5♣ or ♦ Control Bidder 2♠ Weak and long. Unsafe to Bid Pass Of course Unsafe to Bid 2NT Strong Relay asking for 2nd suit Safe to Bid. 3♣ Pass or Correct to♦ s Unsafe to Bid. 3♦ Weak and long. Unsafe to Bid 3♥ Advance on Pre-empt Unsafe to Bid. 4♥ Advance on Pre-empt

Bidding the Multi with a Two Spade Response. When the Control Bid is 2 ♠ forcing, it is much like our 2♥, only now we have become cramped for space, so beware bids can get confusing here. Blind Bidder is forced to bid, so pass is not an option and still has to be able to bid its long weak majors Therefore 3 level bids have to be saved for the weak pre-empt hands with BOBs rule still applying for higher bids. The positive response gives you more room at the higher levels however. The Multi Two Diamond. Control Precision Opening Bids 2♦ Blind Bid …. 2♦ Control Bid …. 2♠ (forcing) Blind Bidder responds 2NT…. 22-24 Balanced Staymen and (4 way Transfers Apply for consistency even if in practical}. 3♣…. Free for now Good Options are available 3♦…. Also 3♥…. Weak with long ♥ 3♠…. Weak with long ♠ 3NT….. 16+ Hcp. 1444 hand Singleton ♣ Bobs Rule Applies. 4♣…. 16+ Hcp. 4144 hand Singleton ♦ Bobs Rule Applies. 4♦…. 16+ Hcp. 4414 hand Singleton ♥ Bobs Rule Applies. 4♥…. 16+ Hcp. 4441 hand Singleton ♠ Bobs Rule Applies. And so on…………… Assuming our opponents keep passing of course. We still have to talk about this in Competition, but more bids become available.

With added explanation When Bidding with 4441 hand 3 things usuall happen. 1) No decent Major fit, 2) A horrible misfit 3) A great fit with cross ruff potential or 2 suit fit. By bidding 1 below the singleton, Control Bidder always has that option to pass if he needs to do so.

BOBS Rule. Bid One Below Singleton Always bid the 4 card suit BELOW the singleron. Control Precision Opening Bids 2♦ - 2♥-….. 2♠ 2NT Reserved 3♣ 16-19Hcp. 4414 singleton ♦. 3♦ 16-19 4144 Singleton ♥. 3♥ 16-19 1444 Singleton ♠. 3NT 16-19 4441 Singleton ♣ 3♣ 20+Hcp. 4414 singleton ♦. 3♦ 20+ 4144 Singleton ♥ . 3♥ 20+ 1444 Singleton♠ . 3NT 20+ 4441 Singleton ♣. With 16+ 4441 hands we open 2♦ and then all the 3 and 4 level bids are available to us to describe exactly where the singleton lies. Blind Bidder bids Bid One Below Singleton for tempo and stability in case Control Bidder is exceptionally weak. This allows Control Bidder to pass. Control bidder will see partner’s hand, and know the exact point range and shape of the hand. Armed with the exact location of the singleton, he will place the final contract perfectly.

Bidding the Multi with a Two Heart Response. The Multi Two Diamond. Control Precision Opening Bids 2 Blind Bid ….2♦ Control Bid ….2♥ (weak) Pass….. 8-11 Hcp with 6x♥ 2♠…. 8-11 Hcp with 6x♠ 2NT…. 22-24 Balanced Staymen and 4 way Transfers Apply 3♣…. 16-19 Hcp 4414 hand Singleton ♦ Bobs Rule Applies. 3♦…. 16-19 Hcp 4144 hand Singleton ♥ Bobs Rule Applies. 3♥…. 16-19 Hcp 1444 hand Singleton ♠ Bobs Rule Applies. “Note: This bid may not be used for 6xor7x♥” or you may lose a partner. 3♠…. 16-19 Hcp. 4441 hand Singleton ♣ Bobs Rule Applies. 3NT….. 20+ Hcp. 4441 hand Singleton ♣ Bobs Rule Applies. 4♣…. 20+ Hcp. 4414 hand Singleton ♦ Bobs Rule Applies. 4♦…. 20+ Hcp. 4144 hand Singleton ♥ Bobs Rule Applies. 4♥…. 20+ Hcp. 1444 hand Singleton ♠ Bobs Rule Applies.

The Multi 2♦. Bermy Style Control Precision opening Bids 2♦ The Multi Two Diamond is our free 2♦ opening bid that deals with our long 6 card majors. This bid also allows us to bid those hands that are unbiddable in Control Precision, such as all 16+ 4441 hands and 22-24 Balanced Hands. It also frees up both 2♥and 2♠ for 2 suit weak hands. 2NT, also free becomes 11-13 High Card Points with both minors at least 5x. Control Bid 2 ♥ Weak relay bid, up to say 12 Hcp . Will be passed when opener has 6x♥ weak 2♠ Strong relay bid. Forcing 2NT Omega Bid.

2 level Bids can have their own feed, as the Multi2♦ effects all the bids above. I will leave 2NT openings to partnership ideas and there are matters to be discussed about the 2♦-2Major-2NT 19-21 balanced hands. All 4441 16+ hands any singleton must be opened 2♦, if you open 1♣ you will find yourself without an effective rebid, and will lose control. Rather hand over control with the opening bid. You see, to our advantage our opponents should not be allowed to know if we are strong or weak at the opening bid, since even we don't know, until after the relay. They should be wary of out strong hand traps for poor interference. B-)

Bidding at Four and Five Levels Control Bidding in Competition When competing at the higher levels, all the major decisions should go to the Control Bidder, since he is the one in Control. Blind Bidder should avoid bidding, unless he has a Blind Mad Void Licence. Control Bidder should naturally look at the state of vulnerability and the game situation before coming to a decision. The Control Bidder can then decide if the contract can be made, or whether to sacrifice a bid to reduce the score damage. Double by Control Bidder over 2NT is always Penalties and must be respected by the Blind Bidder. Double by the Blind Bidder over 2NTis also a Penalty Double showing good values in the opponents suit. However, a Blind Double is NOT forcing on the Control Bidder, who may pull the double at any time should he deem it necessary. Control Bidder must retain control at all times. <_<

Yes, I have earmarked your problem for later discussion. Note I said "Would 2/1 handle that fit much better" without question mark for your limited English. Please stick to the subject and ask the right questions on the right feeds.

:D :D :D :D Have you not read my other feeds?

It is easy really, Hcp and shape is everything, so first 3 ok, perhaps telephone numbers in major would want to make one undervalue the hand a bit. 1♦ min is just to get into the bidding early anyway

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Simply ask the right questions at the right time, in the right feed, if you don't have a point to prove. But if you would rather open discussion to other matters do so on another feed please, I have provided you with one. Sometimes, my answers will refer to later notes, as CP+ already exists, however it is far more complicated, and I would rather focus on new interested parties for Precision, and those currently understanding Wei as well. If you want to indulge in unnecessary criticism in the wrong feed, you will get the replies you deserve. I would prefer to end this argument right now, and get on with it. Others are waiting. :angry:

“If men would consider not so much wherein they differ, as wherein they agree, there would be far less of uncharitableness and angry feeling.” ~ Joseph Addison “A lot of arguments can be avoided if we simply stop and think about our response before we say it.” ~ Charles Harper “The moment we want to believe something, we suddenly see all the arguments for it, and become blind to the arguments against it.” ~ George Bernard Shaw I wish to continue on Open Forum thank you, as I believe I am contributing to a Universal Language. I therefore need to be open to scrutiny and need to answer key questions. I am simply asking for politeness, manners, and to stay with the subject. :rolleyes: Thank You

Comments noted.

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I see nothing wrong with explaining my system on a public forum. Many have asked me to publish notes, and now I am doing it. It is a complete language, and as such must have its strong weak spots, as all do. How may times do 2/1 bidders miss a simple 1NT contract, because their system does not allow such a pass. The weak spots need to be observed, noted and explained how to manage when the situation arises, it is only the end result that matters. Taking wise guy comments, as this is an open forum, simply complicates matters and get us bogged down in unnecessary detail. If I mention I don't like Lebensohl, we will be discussing this feed for pages, without getting anyware. I have said before I cannot work in contradiction, as that is counter productive. I will however answer question and discuss weakness over time. We actually need clever questions (not wise guy comments), with answers from observations in order to discuss matters further, and develop our language to its full potential. While you are thinking to find weaknesses you can help us find solutions with 3-5 major fits after opening 1♦ Have some ammunition if you like do you not know that I have played before, and may be aware of these weaknesses. xxxxxxxxx xxxxxx xxxxxxx :( .

2♣ Openings Opening 2 ♣ has not differed much since the original CC Wei version, perhaps because it was so great and it worked. We open 2♣ whenever we have 5x♣ or more and another bid, of a 4 card major or 5 card ♦ and 11-15 Hcp. (2NT openings are also available for 5-5 minors, and I will discuss later) Control Responses are. 2♦ serves as an all-purpose Safe to Bid relay, for further information on that second bid. If you want to bid out a nice suit, bid 2♦ first, as a relay. Blind bidder bids: 2♥ min with 4x ♥ 2♠ min with 4x ♠ 2 NT max with 6x ♣ 3♣ min with 6x ♣ 3♦ 5-5 or better with ♦ 3♥ max with 4x ♥ 3♠ max with 4x ♠ Other Control Bids are available, 2 Major is Unsafe to Bid with cards in that major, and one should not bid on without a very good max. 2NT is our Omega bid sequence for a slam try when Control bidder has a huge hand. In the Omega sequence Control Bidder can ask for the exact holding information within any suit, by use of Omega Beta asking Bids. 3♣ is to play, don’t bid on unless Blind Mad. Control Bidder should not pass the 2♣ opening when 3♣ is a better option. 4♣ and 5♣ is to play.

Who is in Control? Control Precision’s Golden rule 1) When you open the bidding your partner (the responder) is in Control and you (the opener) is the blind bidder unless, 2) When you open 1♣ then you, the opener (the strong hand) retains control and the responder is the blind bidder, unless 3) When you open 1♣ and respond with a NT second bid at any level, you transfer Control back to the responder. If both partners know and understand this golden rule, then both partners will know who the Control Bidder is, and who is the Blind Bidder. Armed with this information both partners know their respective roles throughout the bidding. Both partners have no need to have a combined picture of both hands. We only need one partner to receive an accurate description of the other hand. Therefore if opener can accurately describe to his partner the exact point count and distribution of his hand, the responder will gather this information and add it to the 13 cards he already knows. Responder must now place the opener in the right contract. He does so by describing his relative strength in a limited, invitational or game forcing bid, which tells the declarer how safely he can continue bidding on. So responder must respond by informing the opener how far he can safely bid. Opener then makes his second bid, which give more information as to what kind of distribution and point range he is holding. Sometimes if a third bid is necessary this will get done at the appropriate time if responder allows for such a bid. On many slam-going combinations a few relays may be necessary, and responder will show when these sequences must occur. Responder, who is looking at his own cards, will be in the best able to assess the combined holding of the partnership . So if you open the bidding with a limited 11-15 Hcp hand your partner becomes the Control bidder, and you, as the Blind bidder must accurately describe your cards to him, while he gathers the information, and decides the final outcome of the bidding. This applies to all 1♦, 1♥, 1♠, 1NT and 2♣ openings. This rule also applies to the multi 2♦ and weak 2♥, 2♠, 2NT bids too, as well as your weak 3 and 4 bids. Overcall bidding is very similar, using the take out double for strong overcall hands, and I will deal with all this in the appropriate Chapter. When the opener has the stronger 16+ Hcp hand he opens 1♣ and, unless he has a no trump type of hand, takes control of the bidding. This means that the opener, after a 1♣ opening and hearing either a weak 1♦ or any other stronger bid will proceed to ask the responder for further information. Should opener choose a NT response, at any level, he then describes a limited balanced hand, and control returns to the responder who will proceed to place the final contract, after any further questions have been answered. This is because these balanced hands are easier to define than responder’s hand and will have the better picture of the combined holding. For any other openings, the opener immediately defines his hand to a limited type of distribution and point range. The responder, now only has to return to the opener enough feedback as to whether there is enough combined point holding to continue bidding onto the next round, or onto game or slam. Responder may prefer to exit the auction early or concede to the opponent’s overbid. In some cases the responder may require specific information, like finding No Trump stoppers, or slam controls, so he asks. I believe that it is best to use only, absolute High Card Point Count during the first round of bidding. I do not advise adjusting the point count for distribution, (e.g. adjusting a good 15 Hcp to open 1♣ or adjusting a poor 16 Hcp to open 1NT) as this will lead to the delivery of misleading information. This way you describe exactly what you hold, without adjusting for distribution or doubleton queens or singleton kings. This can be allowed for in the next round of bidding and can be taken into account before jumping to show strength. So a good hand with 13 or 14 Hcp. and a singleton may be bid as strong, while a similar hand with the king in the singleton suite, or the existence of a queen in a doubleton or singleton suite may be adjusted as weak. While these occurrences do weaken your hand, I believe that by being able to accurately describe you high card points, the controlling partner can access the balance of strength from the total point count of 40, which is the total amount of points in the deck of cards. Remember that any combined holding of 21+ Hcp means that you hold the balance of strength over your opponents. Now that the responder is armed with accurate information, he will be in the best position to know exactly what is going on when the opponents make an overcall, or jump shift. Its also allows you to hold back and let him make the best decisions, while you watch results start falling in your favour. Many players can’t resist to over or under value their hands, only to brag on when the final outcome has been successful, that it was this decision that lead to the final outcome. This may happen from time to time, but it will also be the biggest cause of bad results, and gambling bids at the bridge table are so unnecessary, while accurate information is usually the best policy. Note, that had you bid properly you probably, more likely to come to the best outcome anyway. Also note, if you occasionally get bad scores due to bad breaks or unusual defence, don’t be discouraged. No bridge system can tell what the opponents cards and distribution may be, and forms part of the mystery of this great game. But there is no law against listening to their bids and watching their play to gather information about bad breaks and missing key cards, and most experts will do that anyway. Very few tournaments are decided on 1 or 2 bad breaks and that players who get accurate scores most of the time find themselves at the top or near the top of the result sheet usually. I also believe that the sooner you enter the auction the better. Control Precision gives you maximum opportunity to do so. If either partner has 11+ points or more (1/4 of the total count) you are into the bidding. Added to that you have a huge arsenal of weak openings for any type of distributional hands, when holding a 5-5 or 6-card suite. These bids help you to enter the bidding early with as little as 5 or 6 Hcp’s.

Now if I may continue this introduction, for those who may be interested. I mentioned before, I cannot work in contradiction, if you find some of the sequences not quite fitting, as would in any system, we will deal with those matters, once we get the full basic outline out of the way.

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1 No Trump Openings Our 1 No Trump Openings are always balanced with no singletons or voids. 5 card minors are included, but 5 card majors are not to be recommended in our language. Balanced Hands No Trump Bidding in Control Precision 13-15 Hcp Control Precision 14-16 Hcp Control Precision+ Control Bidder’s Responses 2♣ Stayman asking for majors, Safe to Bid but not game forcing 2♦ Transfer to♥ Safe to Bid 2♥ Transfer to ♠ Safe to Bid 2♠ Showing ♣ Break of Transfer, Safe to Bid 2NT Showing ♦ Break of Transfer. Safe to Bid 3♣ Super Stayman Omega 3♦ Super Transfer to♥ Omega 3♥ Super Transfer to ♠ Omega 3NT To Play. Of course you may play 1NT openings any way you like really, this is our method. All methods work well, even dare I say it, Gib. :o I am not really sure if it is a good idea to open 1NT with 2 doubletons, 9 cards in the minors, I prefer 1♦