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Hi, Better to pass as both are vuls. If vuls vs nonvuls: 1.One can use 4nt as both minors 5-5. 1s-*-4s-4nt 5c-p-p-p. or 1s-*-4s-4nt 5c-p-5d-p 5h-p-p-p. 2.With heart and minor 5-5: 1s-*-4s-5h. (in both case opps bid not counted).

I pass.if partner has 2 tricks.still chance of 2 down which is -5000.The only possibility of 5c if my p has points in D(with no club looser).If my p has points in still no game.so pass better.