First hand: I would play the J club since E has 2 count left in hand they either have Q club or Q heart. If the J walks you know who has Q heart(E) Second hand: It is simple. First of all W did not have NT count but, since that was their bid, they have 12 count(which means E is void of count). Lead a heart to south and finesse the spade through W leading a low spade. W has the K and most likely the J but they are most likely in a doubleton. E and W had no business bidding. In the unlikely event that W does not have the king then E has to lead a heart or spade back in which case you take out with S and finesse again. W must have 2 heart(J high?) and 2 spade.