Back to the 2-level openings, I'd recommend something like the Frelling 2D opening. If you want an opening to show both majors, i think it is far superior to use 2H than 2D. 2H is natural and passable, and should put more pressure on opponents. If you use 2D to show both majors, your LHO can assign different meanings to {immediate double}, {delayed double}, {2H cue}, {2s cue}, {direct 2NT}, {delayed 2NT}. The immediate double is a particular killer, giving opponents a good chance to penalise you in a misfit 2M contract. If you use 2H to show both majors, your LHO has to take immediate action with a good hand. You may complain that you like the traditional 2H opener, with a 6-card single-suiter. Actually it's pretty rare, not particularly effective, and you could get away with opening those hands at the 3-level NV. Alternatively, play a multi 2D, play 2H with both majors, and use 2S Lucas style. :unsure: Ben