Dear All,I am more than ever confused by the statements made by both sides.As per SAYC booklet any new suit by the responder after opener rebids a suit is a forcing bid.When I see the hands given by damitall and also as argued by the Expert,I am bamboozled and put my right index finger in my mouth.Very confusing ! But such is the game of Bridge where " I am right and you are wrong "never ends ,more so after the 52 cards are exposed.ha ha ha.Good night.