bartonfinc

I know, I know, the first 6 answers will ask why would I ever play in the stupid things. I have no good answer for that other than I sometimes have a spare 30 minutes and feel like torturing myself. I don't care if I get 6 partners who can't sort their cards, don't care if I get all zeros, blunders, poor bids, bad play, don't bother me at all. What bothers me is players are supposed to play 2/1 and the convention card is provided. If you don't know 2/1 at least have the cc open and make an effort or guess what bid to make. I played one tonight. First hand I make a support dbl (what the cc says I should do), pard does not rebid spds, which he had 5 of, bids something else. When my hand comes down as dummy he quits. Next hand I open 1nt, LHO bids 2D (cc says capp showing both majors) his pard passes having 4 hearts and 2 diamonds. In theory these short little tourneys should be great, instead they are a complete joke. Perhaps management could make a note so when players register or the table opens. In 20pt font it says OPEN THE CC PROVIDED AND PLAY IT.

I'm fairly new here and have mixed feelings on the whole subject: 1) Sure rules are rules and whoever runs the tourney can make whatever rules he/she wants 2) If there is some software reason that makes it a hassle to let a booted player back, it makes sense not to let them back 3) If it's not a pain for the person running the tourney to let a player back, then IMO it's ridiculous not to. A pair comes to play as a pair, a sub is someone hanging around to be helpful. A sub should have no expectation on how long they play. If removed from one table, they can go to another. 4) I can't imagine a sub would ever refuse, to allow the original pard to return. I can't imagine anything more impolite.

your right a 4;am misspeak lol, but you get the point. I open the cc and even with only 30 sec to act I have time to look what my pards bid means. or should mean.

I know I'm beating a dead horse, but is it too much to ask players take just 30 sec. 1 major 3 major is weak, 2 over 1 is a game force that's it. no more. In 1 6 board match tonight 1s-3s-4s on my 18 count pard has 13 missed slam. 1s- 2h-2s all pass making 5. I play in these things specifically so there might be a little clue as to what pard is doing (unlike an individual I played at a regional that was the worst experience of my life). Guess it's hopeless and time to give up.

A little off topic but I hate how many "take command" type players you run into as well. I've seen more 1c p 3nt or 1c p 4h auctions in a month than I've seen in a lifetime in real partnership bridge. Even when my pard is a novice I'm going to try and bid right and give them a chance to learn, I don't care if I take a zero for it.

I've always hated individuals, but I though perhaps (foolishly) that these might be different. I'm not talking about beginners here, 1/2 these people call themselves experts or advanced. I don't expect perfection but I would think they would at least glance at the cc. For example if you don't play transfers, you must realize everyone else in the tourney is playing them. Or what possible system could play 1h-3h-4d all pass.

Just curious does anyone actually read how these are supposed to be played? Everyone is supposed to play 2/1. They even provide the convention card for the form of 2/1 you play. There are inverted minors, there are standard leads, negative doubles, and on and on. You can even open up the cc and take a look if unsure what to do. So why is it pard opens 1c and I bid 2c on my 17 count and 5 clubs and am passed (by an "expert". Over 1nt I bid 2d for the majors (capp) I play it there. I'm passed in cuebids, people use a different form of blackwood than listed on the cc. And these are not beginners or novices. Would players please take 2 min to look at the cc.

Well I agree with everyone that 1D is clear, But I'm not so sure 5c is. 5 minor could easily be -2 and 4 major have no play.