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old question ? not, and many ways mine, probably not the best (sry))) 1C(15+)-1D-3NT 28-30 1C(15+)-1D-2NT 25-27 or 31+ 2D(multi) then NT : 23-24 2NT 21-22 1C-1D-1NT : 15-20, the "key" feature [*] 1D-1M-1NT : 11-14 1NT AS YOU LIKE ! and usual for me : 11-13 white, 14-16 no S 4 red [*] then the "key" feature : --- 1C ==> 1K 0-5 or 9+, others (5)6-8(9) --- 1C-1D-1NT 15-20 [very large ? yes !], then the captain/responder : 0-5 => stop in major 5+ or minor 6+ by transfert way, or Pass 6-7 => have not gone by 1C-1D relay 8-9 and major 5+ : idem 8-9 and major 4 : 2D-2H-2NT, 2H-2S-2NT 8-9 and 44 major : 2C-2D-2S, 2C-2H-3D (limit or slam), 2C-2S-3H (limit or slam) [note : 2C-2D-2H is GF, 2C-2M-2NT is GF too] 8-9 no major 4+ : 2S "Rodwell", for => 2NT 15-16, 3C 17-18, 3D 19-20 10+ GF : all other bids avaliables

like that following structure after 1C (15+), a little "spécial", but very comfortable for me : .....1D 0-5 or FG 9+ .....1H by 4+, 1S by 4+, all 5-9 & not GF .....2C by 5+, 2D by 5+, all 6-8 & not GF .....1N-flat 6-8H, not forcing .....2H 4144, 2S 1444 : 6-8 .....2N 55+ minor 6-9 .....others : solid AKQ by 6+ and after 1C-1D : .....1H by 4+, 1S by 4+, all 15+ & not forcing .....2C by 5+, 2D by 5+, all 15+ & not forcing .....1N-flat 15-20, or 444 short major 17-20, not forcing .....2H 4+, 2S 4+, 3C 5+, 3D 5+ : all GF .....2NT GF, 25-27 or 31+ .....3H 4144, 3S 1444 : GF .....3NT 28-30 other flat hands openings: 1NT or 1D : 12-14 [*] 2NT 21-22 2D Multi then NT : 23-24 [*] or white : 1NT 11-13 [*] or red : 1NT 14-16, no S 4 (like Chagas) simplicity ? i think so, but ........ ))) friendly all

very interesting, very was thinking about same

am old too :) 3♦ or 1♣ (yes one club) friendly to all

so to me friendly all

hi all the most feature of French stdt is 2D FG. not really very good, no ? but u can think otherwise )) sry but i "hate" it. (as french player i know a little) friendly, Al

many thanks for very interesting on US trials sytems for World championships, but by Gnasher (hi) (and hi all) ** Nobody outside France thinks that Standard French is any good, ** => am on the same railway thinking. ** but their top players don't seem to have any difficulty ** => really any ? ** with getting good results playing it. ** => am very affraid for Ostend : like in South Afrika with soccer )) friendly all (French sys is the most difficult to play, in the universe ))

friendly to all not perfect (lol), but (1C = 15+ HCP, no limit) : 1C-(X) => Pass 0-5HCP, XX FG, others NAT 6-9HCP (with eventual variations) and others, Transfert style : 1C-(1D) => Pass eventual punitive, X = H 4+, 1H = S 4+, 1S = C 4+ or no guard NT, 1NT = 6-8HCP D guard (sys on), 2C = FG D 5+ (anti psy), 2D = FG H 5+, 2H = FG S 5+, 2S = FG C 5°+, 2NT = NAT FG (sys on), 3C = FG D 6+, 3D = FG H 6+, 3H = S 6+, 3S = FG C 6+ 1C-(1H) => Pass eventual punitive, X = S 4+, 1S = C 4+ or no guard NT, 1NT = 6-8HCP H guard (sys on), 2C = D 4+, 2D = FG H 5+ (anti psy), 2H = FG S 5+, 2S = FG C 5+, 2NT = NAT FG (sys on), 3C = FG D 5+, 2D = FG H 6+, 3H = FG S 6+, 3S = FG C 6+ 1C-(1S) => Pass eventual punitive, X = H 4+, 1NT = 6-8HCP H guard (sys on), 2C = D 4+, 2D = FG H 5+, 2H = FG S 5+ (anti psy), 2S = C 4+ (big flaw ?), 2NT = NAT FG (sys on), 3C = FG D 5+, 3D = FG H 6+, 3H = FG S 6+, 3S = FG C 5+ 1C-(1NT) => X = punitive, 2C = H 4+ (S 5+ eventual) , 2D = S 4+, 2H = S 4+ & H 5+ , 2S = one limited minor 6+ or strong C/major, 2NT = strong D/other, 3C = limited C/D, 3D = strong H/S [my "own standard" on oponents 1NT opening] 1C-(2C) => Pass eventual punitive, X = D 4+ (NOT A MAJOR !), 2D = H 4+, 2H = S 4+, 2S = C 4+ or no guard NT, 2NT = NAT 8-9 HCP (sys on), 3C = FG D 5+, 3D = FG H 5+, 3H = FG S 5+, 3S = FG C 5+ (anti psy), 3NT "for play" [but 4C, 4D, can verify] 1C-(2D) => Pass eventual punitive, X = H 4+, 2H = S 4+, 2S = C 4+ or no guard NT, 2NT = NAT 8-9 HCP (sys on), 3C = FG D 5+ (anti psy), 3D = FG H 5+, 3H = FG S 5+, 3S = FG C 5+, 3NT "for play" [but 4C, 4D, can verify] 1C-(2H) => Pass eventual punitive, X = S 4+, 2S = C 4+ or no guard NT, 2NT = NAT 8-9 HCP (sys on), 3C = D 4+, 3D = FG H 5+ (anti psy), 3H = FG S 5+, 3S = FG C 5+, 3NT "for play" [but 4C, 4D, can verify] 1C-(2S) => Pass eventual punitive, X = H 4+, 2NT = NAT 8-9 HCP (sys on), 3C = D 4+, 3D = FG H 5+, 3H = FG S 5+ (anty psy), 3S = C 4+, 3NT "for play" [but 4C, 4D, can verify] 1C-(others) => Pass is forcing ! and X too. Others NAT FG

hello all not sure of truth but i think nor 2C nor 2D are "playable" against operand ops. but only after eventual Double of 1NT. then i play all them forcing. in walsh style i like that after 1m-1M-1NT : 2♣ is limit or FG 2♦, with M 5+, is weak or good shape FG then direct and fast 3♣ or 3♦ = good limit six, with major only four thanks for not "burning" me, lol have a good day all

modestly of mine : a true man, a big player. end of an fantastik epopee (in french sry for my bad english) of Dallas Aces. a big emotion. bye Paul !h!h

hi everybody (have fun & all you want kindly) alain (bhtf on BBO) very nice department of bbo forums but i was not awake when starting (shame on me !) in the exemple under (thxs for Helene) i understand quite all but not the YYYYYYYYY508, the NYYYYY601, and others of same type. can some of you give me the clues ? bhtf@wanadoo.fr if possible for not too keep place on this forum. friendly for all (and others too :D))) "your" bhtf :blink: [kisses of France] *00{Precision(Forum)}=NYYYYYYSimplified Precison a la Wei. Natural 1!d-opening.Helene-t september 2005 on the basis of BBO-Forum polls 001C=YYYYYYY50816+HCP 001CP1D=YYYYYYY5080-7 HCP or three-suited 001CP1DP1H=NYYYYYY34816-21 Usually 5+ !hs 001CP1DP1HP2S=NYYYNYN601Three-suited 001CP1DP1HP2N=NYYYYYY63-suited short in hearts 001CP1DP1HP3C=NNYYYYY601Three-suited

nice, nice. then not open 1D for me, but 1S on North is okay 2S on North too (after pass in South i like) 1S in South if North was sleeping i agree too ! kisses for all you love.

take french sys and add 1C forcing is the hard way ! lol and definitively not the french philosophy arghhhhhhh french by the way of life i dont love it (am italian and meck/well fan) and play a medium responses (to 1C) precision like 1C 15+ with 1S 5+, 1H 5+ or 44M w one m 4+, 1D 2+, 2C 6+ but i hope much you can perform your idea to a more comfortable use every work on sys drop you near truth friendly alain

for (only) mine 1D:1H:2NT with KTx-x-AQJxxx-Axx 1D:1H:2S(art):2NT(relay): 3C with x-KTx-AQJxxx-Axx 3D with A-KTx-AQJxxx-xxx 3NT with KJxx-x-AQJx-AQxx (not open by 1C) 1D:1H:3D with AKx-xx-AQJxxx-xx or Jxx-x-AKJTxx-KQx if helping you where happy lol ;) :P

interesting, interesting, as usual ;) a simplest Trans Way : 1♣-(1♥)- ? X = ♠ 4+, 5-6HCP and more 1♠ = trans for NT witout ♥ control, OR trans for ♣ 1NT = natural 5-7. Then system on [staym, Transf] 2♣ = trans for ♦, 5-6HCP and more 2♦ = trans ♥ anti-psy FG (with 5-7 : Pass or 1NT) 2♥ = ♠ 5+ FG 2♠ = same of 1♠ but FG 2NT = natural FG. System on. and similar on all obstructions to 3♠ last transfert. if ops : 4♣ or more : -- forcing pass -- Neg Double -- all others Nat and for play if flat like 15-18 in opener hand.

hi all, very instructive one when playing my own big 1♣ : 1NT IS NOT A BID IN THE SYS then 1NT is THAT you want. Perhaps : -- 11-13 HCP in first or second white -- 14-16 HCP no !s by four in others. no miracle in that : 1♣ is 15+ with MR. Medium responses about 6-10 Hcp + Shape. and then 1♣-1♦ (light or strong) - 1NT 15-20 can "survive" easily. 1♣ 2+ keep 11-14 eventualy flat 2NT 21-22 2♦ Multi w 23-24 1♣-1♦-2NT 25+ medium responses to 1♣ is not very popular i agree. your dear Alain (bhtf on BBO)

:lol: precision as liberty territory not great contribution :P but mine as comfortable (only) use sys. -- 1C (15+ hcp) responses : 1H, 1S, 1NT(6-7), 2C, 2D : naturals about 5-9hcp 2H, 2S : 444 short in major bid, 5-8. 3S : AKQxxx in H, nothing out. 3H : same with other longer. If relay : 3NT=C, 4C=D, other = S. 1D : relay 0-5 or 9+ hcp. 1C-1D-jumps : FG. one key of the sys is 1C-1D-1NT 15-20hcp, easy to handle then. -- others openings : 1D /2+ balanced 11-14, OR /4+ 10-15 1H 10-15, /5+ or tricolored with 44 majors (4441 or 4450) 1S 10-15, /5+. 1NT : as the users want ! ! ! ! ! [*] 2C : /6+ no major /4, 10-14. 2D MULTI : weaks majors twos OR balanced 23-24. 2M : M/4 and C/5+, 11-14 (inverteds roman twos) 2NT balanced 21-22 [*] all balanceds hands 11-14 : 1D 15-20 : 1C-1D-1NT [the Quinze-Vingt hospital (by Saint Louis) is in Paris lol] 21-22 : 2NT 23-24 : MULTI 2D 25-27 or 31+ : 1C-1D-2NT 28-30 : 1C-1D-3NT [***] 1NT is not a bid in the (basic) sys !!!! lol thx for all and for all yours (very) interestings discussions

agree w you all, that last postage was not in good health ! lol hoping more readable 1C-1S-1NT 2C inv or more check back, only on H 4 investigation, 3 steps 2D weak or strong check back, only on H 4, 2 steps 2H : 55 M, weak 2S inv relay (or slam) for 2N min/ others max. 2N-3C : min 6+, weak or slam. 3m : good six cards, inv 3H : AKQxxx in C or D 3S : AKQxxx in S 1) weaks hands Pass : no M 5, no m 6. 2H............................. 55 majors 2D-2H(H 4)-Pass......... 54 majors 2D-2H(H 4)-2S............ S 5+ no H 4 2D-2S-Pass................ S 5+ with or no H 4 2N-3C-Pass or 3D....... C 6+, D 6+, S 4 2) invitationals hands (limits in my words) 3S : AKQxxx no side entry 3H : AKQxxx minor no side entry. if 3S relay : 3N = C, 4C = D 3m : good six cards minor (HHxxxx) and something else by force. 2S : no M 5. Then 2N mini/ others maxi (3N in fact in 90% appening) 2S-2N-2m : bads 6+ (5 perhaps) to not play in 2NT 2C with S 5+, and H 4+ or not. 2S = H 4 max, 2H = H 4 min, 2D others. 2C-2S FG. Resp is able to use strongs bids after 2C (2N & more) 2C-2S-4H for play. 2C-2S-4D transf for 4H. 2C-2D-2H : 55 major inv. 2C-2D-2S : S 5+ inv. 2C-2H-Pass : 54 major. 2C-2H-2S : S 5+ no H 4 2C-2H-3D : H 4+ fit inv or slamish. op then : 3H mini/3S maxi. w 55+ major inv, responder on 2C-2H can bid 3D or (reds) go directly to 4H. 3) game and more hands 3N, 4S : directs games. 2N-3C-3H ©, 2N-3C-3S (D) : min 6+ slamish, for ctrls (cues for slam) 2N-3C-4C ©, 2N-3C-4D (D) : min 6+ slamish, RKCB w first step minimum. [1C-1S with S 4 and D 6+ slam is not very usual ! but poss in this sys] 2S and then 4C is gerber. 4N quantitative is not in the sys. 2D-2H-4H : 54 or 55 majors, game. 2D-2H-3N : S 5 no H 4, game 2D-2S-3N : S 5 w/no H4, game 2D-2S-3D : S 5 & H 5, game 2D-2x-2N : S 5+ & C 4+, slam 2D-2x-3C : S 5+ & D 4+, slam 2D-2x-3H : S 6+, slam 2D-2x-3S(H), 4C, 4D : local void with S 6+, slam 2C then 2N and more. 4) 2C and strongs bids 3N, 4H, 4S : for play 3S : void/single in C, game or more 3H : S 5, slam 3D : H 4+ fit inv or slam, if op no H 4 : 55+ major slam. 3C : void/single other than C, game or more 2N : shape relay, game or more 5) 2N relay for shortage : helping in choice of game (avoid 3NT with common shortness for minor game or moysian major one) and eventual slam in minor. after 4C & 4D are fixing minor trump and RKCB with first step mini (for minor or NT slam) the machinery is all in first opener response of is shortness : 3C = short S, 3D = short H, 3H = 4333, 3S = short D, 3N = short C. an ugly bid (short in H 4 for exemple) = exotic shape 5422. 1C-1S-1N-2C-2D-2N-3C : 2335 ...............................3D : 3235 ...............................3H : 3334 ...............................3S : 3325 ...............................3N : 2245 (ugly) 1C-1S-1N-2C-2M-2N-3C : 2434 ...............................3D : 2425 (ugly) ...............................3H : 3433 ...............................3S : 3424 ...............................3N : ----- (ugly)

;) hello all 1C-1M-1NT-2C puppet-2D-Pass is an elegant way to play comfortably 2D with 5-4 D-M, but ..... but my oponents never let me in this contract ! then i take another ways. a little 1C-1S-1NT exposure. 2C relay limit or more for : 2S = H4 maxi (FG then), 2H = H4 mini, 2D others. then responder 2H : 55 major limit 2S : S5 limit Pass on 2H : S5 & H4 limit (55 limit : 3D tech, see [*], or 4H !) others : forcings game or more 2D relay weak or strong for : 2H by 4, 2S others. Responder : Pass on 2H : S5 & H4, weak Pass on 2S, 2S on 2H : S5 weak 2NT transf : S5+ & C4+ very strong, 55+ or 64+ 3C transf : S5+ & D4+, same 3D transf : S5+ & H5+, game (id slam : 2C then 3D) 3H transf : S6+, slam (3S discourage, others controls) 3S (H), 4m : void with S6+ slam 3NT : S5 game 4H on 2H : 54 major, game. 2H : 55+ major weak 2S limit, for : 2NT min, others maxs. Then responder : Pass or 3m 5+ on 2NT : stops others naturals, 4C gerber if you like (slam on weight) 2NT puppet for 3C, minors six+ weak or slamish. Then : Pass, 3D : minor 6+, weak 3H©, 3S(D) : minor 6+, slam 4C, 4D : idem, RKCB with mini (first step)/ maxi (others steps) 3C, 3D : good six cards minor, limit for 3NT 3H (!) : AKQxxx no side entry, C or D, only four S. 3S : AKQ in S, no side entry. [*] 1C-1S-1NT-2C, forcings walks of responder : 2NT FG relay [**] 3C FG with void/single away from C 3D = H 4+ fit limit or slam, 55+ majors slam 3H = S 5 slam 3S FG with void/single in C, no S5 garanty [**] 2NT relay for : 3T = S/2 , 3D = H/2, 3H = 4333, 3S = D/2, 3N = C/2 (same after 1N-2C-2?-2N, 1m-1M-1N-2C-2?-2N, etc.) 1C-1S-1N-2C- 2D-2N- 3C 2335 3D 3235 3H 3334 3S 3325 3N 2245 (if imposs bid : 5422) 2M-2N- 3C 2434 3D 2425 (imposs bid) 3H 3433 3S 3424 and some others if you want : 1C-1H-1N-2C- 2M-2N- 3C 4225 3D-3H- 3S 4234 3N 4243 [note] 3H 4333 3S 4324 3N 4342 [note] [note] 1D-1H-1S is 54+ or 4144, 1D-1H-1N deny S4. then 4243 & 4342 open 1C. 1D-1S-1N-2C- 2D-2N- 3C-3D- 3H 2344 3S 2353 3D-3H- 3S 3244 3N 3253 3H 3343 3S 2254 3N 3352 2M-2N- 3C 2443 3D 2452 3N 3442 1H-1S-1N-2C- 2D-2N- 3C 2533 3D 2542 3H 2524 3S 3523 3N 3532 1N-2C- 2D-2N- 3C-3D- 3H 2335 3S 2353 3N 2344 3D-3H- 3S 3235 3N 3253 4C 3244 3H-3S- 3N 3334 4C 3343 3S 3325 3N 3352 2H-2N- 3C-3D- 3H 2434 3S 2443 3D-3H- 3S 2425 3N 2452 3H 3433 3S 3424 3N 3442 2S-2N- 3C-3D- 3H 4234 3S 4243 3D-3H- 3S 4225 3N 4252 3H 4333 3S 4324 3N 4342

various responses possibilities of a 15HCP+ one club like favorite mine are of fabulous number. and i heard you all whith enormous pleasure. THX all yes. in the 70's (i am not very young) the multi-italians-succes with Super-Precision revisited by Belladonna-Garrozo were more than atonishing and as many i was curious of theirs ways. but living in that super-precision was over the patience of my friends. then i work in that (very lazy) way the one club responses : 1D 0-5 or 8+ in hcp but : most of the others bids naturals and in the 6-10 HCP+Shape range : 1H 5°+ or 44(41)(50) with 44 major 1S 5°+ 1NT 6-7HCP (!!) 2C, 2D 5°+ (the hard way even limited 6-9HS) 2NT 55+ minor 3S ARDxxx in H 3H ARDxxx in other very simplest way, but in fact with more comfort than expected one intricacy of that construct was dream-like in opening flats : 11-14 : 1D 15-20 : 1C-1D-1NT [*] 21-22 : 2NT 23-24 : by way of MULTI 2D 25+ : 1C-1D-2NT then 1NT openig is able to take WHAT YOU WANT ! ! ! ! ! a very distinguish way / the standards ones no ? (lol) friendly yours AB, Alain Bonhomme, (bhtf on BBO) [*] 1C-1D-1NT 15-20 what a strange bid ! but responder : -- 0-5 : stop in some longer by transfert, or Pass. -- 6-7 : have not bid 1C-1D -- 8-9 and 5° major : id. -- 8-9 and 4° major : 2D/2H tranfert then 2NT -- 8-9 and 44 major : 2C then limit fit or 2H (or 2S) -- 8-9 and no major : 2NT natural (or equivalent) -- 10+ no pb

3. 2♣ GF opening is the worst bid ever exist. ah ah french 2D GF opening is more (! ! ! ) worst than 2C GF but it's an other (no)-discussion. alain

hello all newcomer and (very bad arghh) english comprehension & writing sorry for full bugs comings have not read all your (wonderfull) contributions on Precision Moscito & others (but am tring hard on) playing some form of precision with strong hope of simplified naturals ways relativly of stdt ones (limiteds 1D 1H 1S 2T are confortables for this) i play 1D-2C (11+ HCP) forcing only one round & MAFIA style (no major 4+) then : 1D-2C-2D (5+), 1D-2C-2NT, 1D-2C-3C : not forcings & very limiteds. 1D-2T-(2D, 2NT, 3C)-new bid : F one (2M, 2NT) or FG (others) 1D-2C-2M : local strenght or 4°, F one and nebulous. 1D-2C-3D : natural FG 1D-2C-3M : shorts FG and suggested C 3+ fit. 1D-2C-3NT for play with goods six D and something in H and S. i like MAFIA to clarify bids in many ways. one recent exemple : 1D 2C 2H 3H 4C 4H in 4-3 fit exposed but good contract. have fun all. Alain :) sure