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I am convinced that 3nt by me was wrong with the kind of hand I held....Most of you or I should say ALL of you who answered this post are seasoned bridge players..... If I asked anyone who plays bridge at my level, they would bid a quick 3NT and live to regret it..... 3♣ is not forcing, never thought it was..... Everything looks different in the morning B) This was a great discussion, but I was convinced I was wrong before all the posts..... In a few days I may agree with the 3♣ bid, who knows..... I would have prefered it, if Alex posted only his hand and then posted mine.... it's easy to judge when all hands are shown..... or post only mine and his bid..... I think that would have been extremely interesting..... When I look at the hands now, I kick myself for having bid 3NT.....i have a clear pass..... I did not judge his hand properly..... I just assumed.... and that is why I will never be a good bridge player, or at least a consistent one... I don't want to give names to protect the innocent, but the few intermediate players wo read this post disagreed with the 3♣ bid, and now it was my turn to convince them it was correct!!!!!

I PASS 3♣Try and play at 3am!!! Alex is right, you are all right, my bid is wrong..... so clear now, it took me 2 days to realise this........ and now Alex won't talk to me nor play with me......... ty all

I was Alex's partner when this bid came up, and I took the 3 ♣ for a stronger hand, and bid 3nt..... I argued with Alex, and insulted his bidding. I aplogize publicly for doing that. He said he would quit bridge if his bidding was wrong, thank God he was not, so he doesn't have to quit now, but I probably should... He got 2 stars'opinions and they are in agreement with his bid, saying it is non forcing, and partner should not bid 3NT.. I would still bid 2♣ with his hand, as I am not an expert and not capable of assessing hands.... I am not apologizing for bidding 3nt, I am only apologizing for being rude about Alex's bid, and not because so many of you agree with him.... I think it is possible to see my point of view also.. Sorry Alex ;)

Well, I agree, I am sure he was fed up! I can tell from the first comment he made... he must have recieved messages from our opponents complaining that my partner was refusing to play until they had answered our question about the unalerted bid. I am guilty of not having checked to see whether TD was playing or not. Had I checked, I would have known ahead of time that nothing can be done about this. I am talking about attitude and being polite to one another. Maybe the title of this thread is wrong, because it's not about an unalerted bid, its about a rude TD. I have never heard anyone say that to get service you need to play a paid turney. He could have just said that as a playing TD he cannot adjust nor be of any help to us, and that's that. I have played in may tournaments where TD is playing and I accept the downside. We are NOT playing a championship, and it is just a passtime. But please don't tell me that you only get service in paid tournaments. As you said pebcat runs great turneys, he is very capable and helpful. We can name many that are unpaid and yet you are given great service. So this thread will pretty much die after this....... :P Aisha

By the way: I WAS NOT ETHICAL NOR POLITE..... I ANSWERED SARCASTICALLY! Will I sleep comfortably on my pillow tonight???? Yessssssssss...... being passive is not always the answer.... :ph34r: aisha

Hey Ken:) That waitress was lucky to have a customer like you! I guess we need to be more tolerant of others..... so do you think I should try another one of his turneys and see if he had a better day? Would you go back to that bar and grill and see how that server is doing on that particular day? You are very wise........ I'll take your words of wisdom into consideration for sure! :ph34r: Aisha

Hi Peter:) I will definitely not play in his/her tourneys anymore (if I remember nick) hehe........ And yes, I know BBO cannot police TDs and I don't expect them to, but I was so furious at the statements, and I missed forums soooooooo much, I got a reason to post B) I also respect their decision not to police! But I love the fact that we can vent out our frustrations here:) Good to be back.... I just need some more material! :ph34r: aisha P.S. I hope you do understand where all this is coming from though B)

Hi Everyone; I haven't posted her for a while, but don't think I've been missed:) I guess I didn't have much to say. Butttttttttt........ tonight I have a lot to say... I just played in an MP turney with my partner C987, and we had a very strange experience...... My RHO opened 1♣, I passed, and my LHO bid 1♦ (not alerted), my partner passed and my RHO bid 1♥, pass all...... hands open...... my LHO, the one who bid 1♦ had 4♥and 3 small ♦s...... when I asked what the bid meant, they explained it as a weak response.... but in my opinion it should have been alerted... friendly match, no problem, but we asked TD to come and try and solve the situation. He said he was busy playing and couldn't help out. These were his comments: instead of writing me opps is not playing you could tell me his nick, you have 2 opps! this tourney is not World Cup so i think you should play another deal if you need to play in tourney with full TD service you should play in paid tournaments Now, I have played in many tournaments, where TD is playing, and I accept to join, and realize many or most boards cannot be adjusted. It's my choice to join or not to join such a tournament. In this case the attitude of the TD was unacceptable, and he/she shouldn't be allowed to run a tournament with such an attitude. The opponents were very polite and very apologetic. The fact that we lost a lot on that board and then got an average on following board due to time limit, is irrelevent. We were not winning, nor expecting to. But there is a certain code of ethics, and some TD's treat players as if it's boot camp! This is unacceptable! We respect our TDs and they should respect the players in return. I doubt anything can be done about this, but I thought it should be brought to everyone's attention that some TD's are not fit to run tournaments! I really had no idea that the only time we could get TD help and adjustments is if we played paid turneys. I play in unibridge (calabres) almost every night, and he is always accomodating and helpful and fair....... that's all I have to say! And nobody pays him for it! Aisha :ph34r:

We all appreciate the efforts made for BBO... my thread started out as a genuine inquiry about the rules on leaving a table in main bridge club as dummy in particular... In f2f bridge you would obviously not leave a table if you are unhappy with your partner, you probably wouldnt play with them again if there was a total lack of communication... Same thing applies to BBO when playing in a tournament... I wasnt aware, and neither was my friend, about the main bridge club rules... that's all! She was truly surprised, as she had no idea that this would be the outcome... How about the numerous times one sits at a table, and after a few hands is asked to give up seat for someones regular partner? One must oblige, i normally do... and whilst looking for a table to play at, when none of ones friends are on, it has happened quite a few times, thats a black dot right there... then you sit at a table, where players are on their last couple of boards, they say their goodbyes and leave, so you also leave... thats another black dot... Can't this happen a few times in one day? It doesnt mean one is rude, or has left intentionally each time... I have understood now though, that one needs to do this a lot of times to get that suspension.... otherwise, I would definitely have gotten that suspension 2 days ago, from logging in and out of BBO several times, definitely more than 5 times... ( sorry if im repeating myself :) But again, thank you Fred, Sheri and Uday... we all know you do your best to be as fair as possible to all the members... its difficult to please everyone... And thank you Uday for the information... i wasnt looking for opinions, i was looking for one answer and I got it... Aisha

Thank you all for your input :) I will relay all your answers to my friend, so she understands how this works.... She wasnt trying to be rude nor insulting, just trying to find a table with a partner she could get along with. I am surprised i wasnt suspended yesterday for leaving over 10 times, and coming back due to very unstable connection... i finally decided its best if i dont play, as it was disrupting everyone... I didnt know about main bridge club rules, so now i know:) Thanks again Aisha

Hi everyone: I was told by a friend yesterday, that she was playing in the main bridge club, under a different nick than her usual one.... she had a few partners she did not get along with, therefore, left a table a few times whilst she was dummy. It seems she has now been suspended for 3 days i think from playing in certain areas of BBO... i can't remember which exactly, but i think team matches and main club.... (i could be wrong,and could be turneys, and main)....she did not leave in anger, just said good bye politely and tried to find another table. The reason i am asking this, is because i have had a terrible connection today, and left table as dummy, as declarer and as defender over 10 times, and tried to keep coming back, playing half a hand and having to log off again... so does this mean i get suspended also? And how can one tell? She was honest and did say she left because she wasnt comfortable with her partners, but her reasons COULD have been a bad connection...... Leaving a tournament too often does lead to suspension, this we all know.. but playing in the main club, and not knowing other players, one tries out several tables until there is a certain chemistry... So what is the scoop here? Thank you in advance :D Aisha

I dont disagree about having the option to close kibber chat in a crowded room.... but when you do that, dont you also end up filtering those comments you WOULD like to hear, about bridge... i.e. player systems, best line of play etc...? I think we would miss out on a lot of smart,witty, and informative comments... The window does get overcrowded at times, but after a while, everyone gets tired, and I have even noticed, there is a sudden silence, except for commentaries.... But nothing wrong with Elianna's suggestion... I'm all for it... i might not use it....but its an advantage to have such an option. Just like the option to be invisible... which is wonderful during vugraph, as it gives you the chance to concentrate on a good game, and listen and learn from the great commentators :D Maybe there is a happy medium until that option is available, for some of us (me included) not to inundate the window, and give others the opportunity to say what they have to.... I like the comparison of someone being loud at a party! I wouldnt leave, but for sure it would iritate me! Maybe another option is to allow each kibber 2 comments :)) jokinnnnnnggg Yessssss, lets all try to get along.... :)

Well, there is the "in crowd" and the "elite crowd".......... Its what you say, and when you say it :) nite all ;)

Too bad Jimmy.... I bet you have more to say than most of us :rolleyes: but silence is golden :) You charmincajunu

The complaints are not about free speach! And this is not a political discussion! Its about being with friends, saying hi, and making comments! In or out of place, doesnt matter... its about enjoying and having a good time..... Having said that, I can understand how annoying it can be for some kibbitzers..... there is no solution, just get in with the "IN CROWD" :) If you cant beat them, join them, I did :P well i tried... they wont let me in :) You people are just too serious :rolleyes: aisha