Thank you for all the replies. Sorry, I need to get back to basics on this. 1♠-2♣ After that presuming we are not using 2/1 but SAYC, what should opener bid? Isn't 2NT showing less than 15HCP? What would North bid after partner's 2♣ if his hand was AKJ85,87,KJ2,953 in both SAYC and 2/1?