2N is played as a relay to 3C, and normally denies game-forcing values with responder. If responder has a good 5+ points, there is no difficulty at all discovering the fit. The scenario where partnership may not discover the fit is when responder has 5 hearts and signs off in a longer minor. Given sufficient extras, opener may also choose to show his 3-card support even after partner tries to sign-off in a minor As to whether a 16-count should bid 2S with 4+ spades and exactly 3 hearts, it depends on overall hand strength. For me, something like the hand below would be perfectly sufficient for that bid. AKTx A9x x KQxxx make it a little worse KQxx Axx x AKxxx and I now prefer a 1S bid I also have the option of raising to 2H with 3 cards and a good 12-15 points. Meckwell game tries compliment this approach nicely.