Ok thank you very much for your effort to figure out what happened, sorry for having not enough info about the case, i only have printscreen of 654 so i can neither put it here as you know, and because its few days old nor reach the original traveller (maybe as managers you can) i have no objection for human mistake,sometimes all of us make hundreds of them in a second, the reason i bring the case here is at the end all 3 tables were 4♠+1 in traveller. Thats why i wondered why i got -4.0 because traveller was saying all 3= 450 and all 3 = 0.0. İf one of them was ave or something N/A i would not ask this question, more strange is one of the score changed to 5♦x 3 :blink: :huh: after 5-6 minutes! probably i have better to change my eyes rather than replacing my glasses :blink: