levier17

[hv=sn=levier17&s=SKQ853HADKQ85CKJ9&wn=Robot&w=ST7HT932DAJ92CA43&nn=Robot&n=SAJHKQ876DT4CQT52&en=Robot&e=S9642HJ54D763C876&d=s&v=b&b=7&a=1S(Major%20suit%20opening%20--%205+%20S%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%201)P2H(Forcing%20two%20over%20one%20--%205+%20H%3B%2013+%20total%20points%3B%20forcing%20to%203N)P3D(New%20suit%20--%204+%20D%3B%205+%20S%3B%2021-%20HCP%3B%2016-22%20t)P3N(5-6%20H%3B%205-%20S%3B%2016-%20HCP%3B%2013+%20total%20points%3B%20partial%20stop%20in%20C)P4N(Quantitative%20invite%20to%206NT%20--%204+%20D%3B%205+%20S)P6N(5-6%20H%3B%205-%20S%3B%2012-16%20HCP%3B%2013+%20total%20points%3B%20partial%20stop%20in%20C)PPD(8+%20HCP%3B%2016-%20total%20points)PPP&p=C6C9CACTDAD4D3D8HTH7H4HACJC3C2C7S3S7SJS6DTD6DKD2S8STSAS4HKH5S5H2HQHJD5H3C5C8CKC4SKH9H8S9SQDJH6S2DQD9CQD7]400|300|[/color]comments[/hv] To accept invitation with a 12 count doesn't seem right to me.

Actually I learned it as we ask for stoppers and I have never encountered anyone showing stoppers when the opponents have one suit only.

Here 5D is better but in most of the situations like this, GIB doesn't bid 3N and it is the best contact. I posted this hand because I had this hand avaliable at the time.

That is also a very important problem.

[hv=sn=levier17&s=S63HAK5DKJ542CA43&wn=Robot&w=S85HT942DT7CKJ976&nn=Robot&n=SKQT9HQ87DQ9863C2&en=Robot&e=SAJ742HJ63DACQT85&d=w&v=n&b=28&a=PP1S(Major%20suit%20opening%20--%205+%20S%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%2012-22%20total%20points)2D(Two-level%20overcall%20--%205+%20D%3B%2010+%20HCP%3B%2011-)P2S(Good%20support%20in%20D%20--%203+%20D%3B%2011-%20HCP%3B%2011-12%20total%20points)P3S(5+%20D%3B%2014-18%20total%20points%3B%20likely%20stop%20in)P4D(3+%20D%3B%2011-%20HCP%3B%2011-12%20total%20points)PPP&p=S8SKSAS3H3HAH4H7D4D7DQDAH6HKH9H8DKDTD3S4CAC6C2C8C3C9D8CTHQHJH5HTSQS7S6S5S9S2D5H2C4CJD6C5STSJDJC7D2CKD9CQ]400|300|[/color]comments[/hv] In lots of situations like this, GIB doesn't bid 3N and we miss our best spot.

[hv=sn=levier17&s=S82HAJDAQ7653CA87&wn=GIB%20W&w=ST75HK8754DKT9CT5&nn=GIB%20N&n=SAQJ9HQT32D42CK92&en=GIB%20E&e=SK643H96DJ8CQJ643&d=e&v=o&b=14&a=PPP1C(Minor%20suit%20opening%20--%203+%20C%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%2012-22%20total%20points)P1D(One%20over%20one%20--%204+%20D%3B%2011-%20HCP%3B%206-12%20tota)P1H(3+%20C%3B%204+%20H%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%2012-22%20total%20points)P1S(Fourth%20suit%20forcing%20--%204+%20D%3B%2011-%20HCP%3B%2011)P1N(3+%20C%3B%204+%20H%3B%2011-14%20HCP%3B%2012+%20total%20points%3B%20partial%20stop%20in%20S)P3N(4+%20D%3B%205-%20H%3B%205-%20S%3B%2011%20HCP%3B%2012%20total%20point)P4S(3+%20C%3B%204+%20H%3B%204+%20S%3B%2014-%20HCP%3B%2013+%20total%20points)P5C(5+%20C%3B%204+%20D%3B%205-%20H%3B%205-%20S%3B%2011%20HCP%3B%2012%20total)PPP&p=H9HAH5H2S2S7SQSKH6HJHKH3S5SAS6S8HQD8D3H7SJS3D5STD4DJDAD9D7DTD2S4DKC2C3DQC4C8CTCKHTCJCAH8D6C5C9C6S9CQC7H4]400|300|[/color]comments[/hv] why not pass 3N?

What you both say is true but I believe, the more important problem here is the 6N bid instead of 6S.

[hv=sn=levier17&s=SAKQ8753H9DK87CAJ&wn=Robot&w=SJ6HAKQT5D632CQ95&nn=Robot&n=STH864DAQT9CKT632&en=Robot&e=S942HJ732DJ54C874&d=w&v=o&b=8&a=1H(Major%20suit%20opening%20--%205+%20H%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%2012-22%20total%20points)PP4S(strong%20rebiddable%20S%3B%2025%20total%20points)P6N(11-15%20HCP%3B%2016-%20total%20points)PPP&p=H2H9HQH4HKH6H3S7HAH8HJS3HTC2H7S5H5C3C4S8C5C6C7CJCAC9CTC8D8D2DQD4STS2SAS6D7D3DAD5D9DJDKD6SKSJDTS9SQCQCKS4]400|300|[/color]comments[/hv] i know my bid is not correct and this position is rare but why bid 6N when we have a laydown 6S possible?

a pair played in 3H and made it exactly if it has any importance.

[hv=sn=levier17&s=SAK654HA72DA97CJ8&wn=Robot&w=SJT93HQ5DKQ53CA95&nn=Robot&n=SQ82HJDJT42CQ6432&en=Robot&e=S7HKT98643D86CKT7&d=s&v=e&b=3&a=1N(notrump%20opener.%20Could%20have%205M.%20--%202-5%20C%3B)PP2C!(Cappelletti%20-%20single%20suited%20--%2014-%20HCP%3B%2010+%20total%20points)2S(2-5%20C%3B%202-5%20D%3B%202-5%20H%3B%204-5%20S%3B%2017%20HCP%3B%2018%20t)P3C(4+%20C%3B%203-%20S%3B%208-%20HCP%3B%207-9%20total%20points)PPP&p=S7S4S9SQC4C7CJCAH5HJHKHAC8C9C2CTH9H2HQC3CQCKH7C5HTD7D5C6S2H8SAS3SKSTS8H6S6SJD2D8DKD4D6DAS5D3DTH3D9DQDJH4]400|300|[/color]comments[/hv] don't you think a 2S bid here should show 5 of them? then we can play in our fit for sure.

[hv=sn=levier17&s=ST3HA3DQ85CKQJT84&wn=Robot&w=SA9874HQJ9DAJ9C97&nn=Robot&n=SKQJ2H864DK2C6532&en=Robot&e=S65HKT752DT7643CA&d=w&v=o&b=8&a=1S(Major%20suit%20opening%20--%205+%20S%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%2012-22%20total%20points)P1N(Forcing%20one%20notrump%20--%203-%20S%3B%206+%20HCP%3B%2012-%20total%20points)2C(rebiddable%20C%3B%2013+%20total%20points)PP2D(6+%20D%3B%202-%20S%3B%209-11%20total%20points)PPP&p=CKC7C2CAD7D5DJDKC6D6C4C9D4D8D9D2DAH4DTDQHQH6H2HACQS4C5D3S5S3SAS2H9H8H7H3HJC3HKC8HTCTS7SKH5CJS8SJS6STS9SQ]400|300|[/color]comments[/hv] This is a bug i believe?

[hv=sn=levier17&s=SAK92HJD94CAQJ765&wn=Robot&w=SQT65HK985DK8C942&nn=Robot&n=S743HQ632DAJ53CT8&en=Robot&e=SJ8HAT74DQT762CK3&d=s&v=b&b=7&a=1C(Minor%20suit%20opening%20--%203+%20C%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%201)P1H(One%20over%20one%20--%204+%20H%3B%206+%20total%20points)P1S(3+%20C%3B%203-%20H%3B%204+%20S%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%2012-22%20total)P1N(Balanced%20minimum%20--%202+%20C%3B%202+%20D%3B%204+%20H%3B%202+%20S%3B%206-10%20HCP)P2C(4+%20C%3B%203-%20H%3B%204+%20S%3B%2021-%20HCP%3B%2014-22%20total%20p)P2D(2-4%20C%3B%204+%20D%3B%204+%20H%3B%202-3%20S%3B%206-10%20HCP)PPP&p=SJSAS6S3HJH9H3HAS8SKS5S7D9D8DAD2H2H4D4H5S2SQS4C3DKD5DTC5STD3D6S9CKCAC2C8CQC9CTD7HTCJHKH6C4HQDQC6H7C7H8DJ]400|300|[/color]comments[/hv] I strongly believe 2C should show a hand like this. GIB doesn't know this and puts us in a terrible position. Now if I bid 3C, it says it is 17-18 points.

http://tinyurl.com/cj9fyjb is it too much to ask gib to be able to pass this 3nt?

[hv=sn=levier17&s=S653HAQDQJ93CKQT9&wn=Robot&w=ST4HKJ53DK8CA8762&nn=Robot&n=SAQJ87HT92DAT62C5&en=Robot&e=SK92H8764D754CJ43&d=n&v=n&b=5&a=1S(Major%20suit%20opening%20--%205+%20S%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%2012-22%20total%20points)P3N(Balanced%2C%20choice%20of%20games.%20--%203-4%20C%3B%203-4)P4S(5+%20S%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%2012-22%20total%20points)PPP&p=D4D9DKDAC5C3CKCAD8DTD5DQS3STS7S2S4SAS9S5D6D7DJH5S6C8SQSKH7HAH3H2CQC6H9C4CTC7HTCJH8HQHKSJD2H6D3C2C9HJS8H4]400|300|[/color]comments[/hv]

[hv=sn=levier17&s=S6HAKQ86DAQJ743C6&wn=Robot&w=S97H743DT85CQT932&nn=Robot&n=SQJ854HJ92D96CAJ4&en=Robot&e=SAKT32HT5DK2CK875&d=w&v=n&b=12&a=PP1S(Major%20suit%20opening%20--%205+%20S%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%2012-22%20total%20points)2S(Michaels%20--%205+%20H%3B%209+%20total%20points%3B%20forci)P2N!(Show%20your%202nd%20suit%20--%2011-%20HCP%3B%2012-%20total%20points)P4D(My%20second%20suit%20--%205+%20D%3B%205+%20H%3B%2017+%20total)P4H(2+%20H%3B%2011-%20HCP%3B%2012-%20total%20points)PPP&p=SKS6S9S8CKC6C2CAH2HTHAH7DAD5D6D2D7D8D9DKSAH8S7S4DQDTHJC5H9H5HKH3HQH4S5STH6CTC4C7DJC9SJS3D4C3CJS2D3CQSQC8]400|300|[/color]comments[/hv] why not support hearts right away? if this is some kind of game try in hearts after i bid my second suit in the 3 level, why not say that may be?

I believe it is important that GIB plays this as a slam invite.

[hv=lin=pn|levier17,~~M43512,~~M43510,~~M43511|st%7C%7Cmd%7C4S67TAHJD8QKC457QK%2CS58QH589QKD4TC68T%2CS34H37AD23569AC9J%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard%202%7Csv%7Cn%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C1C%7Can%7CMinor%20suit%20opening%20--%203%2B%20C%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%201%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C1D%7Can%7COne%20over%20one%20--%204%2B%20D%3B%206%2B%20total%20points%20%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C1S%7Can%7C3%2B%20C%3B%203-%20D%3B%203-%20H%3B%204%2B%20S%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%2012-22%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C3D%7Can%7CInvitational%20jump%20rebid%20--%206%2B%20D%3B%2010-12%20total%20points%20%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C4D%7Can%7C3%2B%20C%3B%202-3%20D%3B%203-%20H%3B%204%2B%20S%3B%2017-18%20total%20poi%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpc%7CHJ%7Cpc%7CHQ%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CD7%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CDT%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpc%7CCT%7Cpc%7CCJ%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CDJ%7Cpc%7CDQ%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpc%7CC6%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CSJ%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CCK%7Cpc%7CC8%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CCQ%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cpc%7CH5%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CD8%7Cpc%7CS8%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CS9%7Cpc%7CST%7Cpc%7CSQ%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CD9%7Cpc%7CHT%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpc%7CD6%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CH8%7C]400|300|[/color]comments[/hv] It invites and I show a 17 18 and it can pass?

I think the discussion here shouldn't be if it is a 1NT bid or not. It should be that GIB pulls the 3NT bids a lot and it shouldn't.

why is it that after openning 1NT - 2M - P - P 2NT is invite to 3NT? that doesn't make sense to me.

that says I have a spade stopper :(

how can I invite GIB to bid 3NT here? I don't know how to show the hand in this url: http://tinyurl.com/c5keecd

1. I think there should be a more hard written rule here since this is a very risky thing to do, something like we humans use. look at your length and strength in the suit. I am starting to get afraid of doubling :) 2. Can't there be a rule telling GIB to look if we lead small or big? like if we lead small return it, if we lead big don't return it? 3. I undertand the logic but isn't asking for aces easier to find out if our trump suit is good or not :)

I am playing with GIBs for a long time now. They have very serious bidding mistakes. I know that somethings are hard to be understood by robots but I believe some mistakes it has can be corrected since they are not mistakes caused by the robotic logic. BBO is trying to improve everyday but I don't think GIBs take enough of that effort even if they deserve it since they are a big part of BBO now. There are lots of robot turneys. Can't there be a commission or something that we can write our complaints and they can try to advance GIB. I will try to write down some big mistakes. 1. It doesn't know that take out doubles are meant to be taken out. I am tried of playing 3H doubled where we can make 4S. 2. It switches almost all the time after it wins the opening lead in NT. 3. In most of the slam auctions it jumps to 5Major to offer slam. Why don't we ask for aces I can't understand. And even GIB doesn't know what 5M is meant for, or what it looks for in the partner's hand. These are 3 major things that shouldn't be so hard to solve? I am sure there are lots of points that people playing with GIBs can add. I hope I could make myself clear :)

I am playing with GIBs for a long time now. They have very serious bidding mistakes. I know that somethings are hard to be understood by robots but I believe some mistakes it has can be corrected since they are not mistakes caused by the robotic logic. BBO is trying to improve everyday but I don't think GIBs take enough of that effort even if they deserve it since they are a big part of BBO now. There are lots of robot turneys. Can't there be a commission or something that we can write our complaints and they can try to advance GIB. I will try to write down some big mistakes. 1. It doesn't know that take out doubles are meant to be taken out. I am tried of playing 3H doubled where we can make 4S. 2. It switches almost all the time after it wins the opening lead in NT. 3. In most of the slam auctions it jumps to 5Major to offer slam. Why don't we ask for aces I can't understand. And even GIB doesn't know what 5M is meant for, or what it looks for in the partner's hand. These are 3 major things that shouldn't be so hard to solve? I am sure there are lots of points that people playing with GIBs can add. I hope I could make myself clear :)