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Thx! I will treat it as typo. Thank all!

Well, so the default is not takeout? What is Dbl. 1s Wk 2s. btw? Thanks!

Hi, I have another simple question about SAYC. On the card, there is a section with the title "VS. OPP's OPENING PREEMPTS" where both Takeout not checked. Could anybody explain the meaning of this part? Here is the link of the card: http://web2.acbl.org/documentlibrary/play/sayc_card.pdf

I'm learning bridge and looking for a regular BBO partner. I indicate myself in the transition stage from novice to intermediate player. (I put intermediate in my bbo profile because several partners and opps insist I do so, but I somehow feel I'm not that qualified.) The bidding system I'm learning and using is SAYC. I'm looking for a partner who is a serious player. I'm not ambitious to win prizes at any event, but really want to improve my play gradually. So I hope my partner and I can discuss bidding treatment, conventions, and learn from same materials. I'm not a native English speaker but should be able to communicate. By the way I'm currently living in Ann Arbor MI, and will move to DC area at the end of this month. Both places are in EST. If interested, please leave a message on BBO chat or reply here. Thanks for taking your time to read this post!

That was I mean by "modern SAYC". Because I vaguely remember in that old booklet, limit raise require 4 cards. But that link is invalid right now.

Thanks! Then what about 1♠-2♣-2♦-4♠ in sayc? Is it illegal or just show no slam interest?

I'm a novice and learning sayc. It seems that in recent sayc booklet and some other materials, limit raise only requires 3 cards support. Like 1♠-3♠ only promises 3 cards support. If I have game-forcing value, then start with 2/1. But some people keep telling me, limit raise should require 4 cards support. If only 3 cards with invitational value (10-11), I should use 2/1 first, like 1♠-2♣-2♦-3♠ to show 3 card support and invitational strength. This seems also very reasonable. By this I mean, if I have game-forcing value, I can bid 1♠-2♣-2♦-4♠ to make a difference from the former. May I ask which approach is standard in modern sayc?

Well, as a novice, I found an evidence indicating forcing minor raise is "common" :P There is a sentence in sayc booklet "There is no forcing minor-suit raise", which means sayc designers understand this is a common treatment and just don't want to put it in sayc. :P Thank you all very much!

Thanks, all! I think I will adopt CSGibson's approach :P . But I sort of understand the logic in jillybean's approach, preemptive as in competitive bidding.

Hi everyone, I again have a very simple sayc question but cannot find the answer in books. How can I bid minor suit game in sayc? By game I mean 3nt or 5m, which ever is appropriate. The materials I've seen always discuss the sequence like 1c-1h, then some major suit involves and nt may appear at some level. However, raise can also happen. For example, 1c-2c (2c is 6-9/10 I guess in sayc) or 1c-3c (3c is 10-11/12 limit raise in sayc) Now how the opener rebid to explore game? I think checking stoppers in other suits is very important but I don't know a correct or an official way to do it. Please suggest a way according to sayc system if possible. Since I'm such a novice, I really want to stick on sayc for a while. Thank you!

Everyone, thanks a lot! I now have a little more confidence.

Thank you! Very helpful.

Hi, everyone, one quick question: What is forcing for one round? I'm not a native speaker, so not sure about the meaning of "one round". I thought it means one making this forcing also promises to bid at least once again. But in some literature, it seems same as forcing.

Thx all! I think I should work on suit combination and counting...

Thanks! Right, I agree with your approach. But the actual distribution is: [hv=pc=n&s=sha832dc&w=sht95dc&n=shq764dc&e=shkjdc]399|300[/hv] And the play by Jack 5 is: first cash A and then play small cards in both hands so K falls. It looks a little puzzling. But it works for this particular distribution.