jahol

I know that similar topics have been discussed hundred times here. Still, you would like to know other's opinion, when you are confronted with something special.... Non-vulnerable with opponents vulnerable, your hand is x---AQJxx---xxx---xxxx . The opponent on your right side starts the bidding with 4S (explained as "a general block", the opponents play together for the second time in their life). The bidding continues: YOU 4S-----pass-----pass-----5C pass---pass-----5S------pass pass---??? What would you do?

Z informace k VUS v 1. celostátní lize jsem poněkud zmaten. Článek začíná větou "Propozice připouštějí užívání passystému s omezením...", ale následující věta "Jednotlivé dvojice, které budou proti páru používajícím VUS nasazeny (může to být i jen jedna dvojice na celý zápas) si připraví písemně způsob obrany proti PAS-systému a předají nejpozději 15 minut před zahájením kola dvojici používající VUS." je spíše omezením pro dvojice, které hrají proti passystému. Proč mám jen proto, že někdo chce hrát passystém, chystat papír navíc, nad rámec konvenční karty, i v případě, že hraju zcela naturální obranu? Proč nemám já nárok na přehledný popis systému od soupeřů na papíře a měl bych si tisknout z internetu? Zcela naturální obranu ale rozhodně hrát nebudu. A proto mám druhý, mnohem závažnější dotaz, nebo se chci spíše ujistit, že jsme si zachovali zdravý rozum. Požadavky na dvojici hrající proti passystému totiž uvádějí "V obraně proti VUS lze použít veškeré speciální dohody s výjimkou dohody, že zahájení PAS nevylučuje sílu běžně vhodnou na zahájení v barvě nebo v BT na prvém stupni.". Předpokládám, a doufám, že se tím, co se nesmí, myslí pouze silná hláška PAS na prvním místě, kdy ještě soupeři nedražili, ale že se omezení v žádném případě netýká hlášky pas na druhém nebo třetím místě po silném PASu soupeřů! (Ono to totiž z textu přesně nevyplývá - je hláška pas po silném, nicméně, pasu soupeřů "zahájením" nebo není? - pokud by byla, nesmí být dle pravidel na vývěsce silná). Když si představím situaci, že bych po silném pasu soupeřů 14+ musel povinně dražit ve druhé proti první s pravidelnou primérkou tref nebo káro a pak už jen čekat, až mi to vesele oflekují a spadnu za 1100, říkám si, že to tak asi nikdo nemyslel. Ale zdůraznit to, že po silném pasu soupeřů mohu (přirozeně!) pasovat se silnou kartou, by bylo dobré. Někomu to nemusí být z textu jasné. V článku mi navíc schází informace, zda mohu při dražbě proti silnému pasu nahlížet do písemně vypracované obrany. V pražské lize to tak je, tady by bylo vhodné uvést, zda se to může také, nebo má celostátní liga v tomto směru jiný status. Osobně si myslím, že by to umožněno být mělo. Jinak pak jako soupeř mám pouze dvě možnosti, které považuji za diskriminující: domluvit se na jednoduché (přirozené obraně), která může fungovat dobře - ale také může objektivně vést během šestnáctky k výsledku -60 IMP našrotit adekvátní obranu a zatížit si paměť, což bude mít (jak je dobře známo) přímý negativní efekt na další prvky bridžové hry (a je to zbytečná pakárna pro jeden zápas za rok). Jaroslav Holý

Indeed, the problem was hand e). Those, who passed, ended with -590, or even -690 after bad mistake in defence. The board was [hv=pc=n&s=s6ht98652dt954c97&w=saqjt8743hdq8ct85&n=sk52haq3da32ckq63&e=s9hkj74dkj76caj42]399|300[/hv] As you can see, those who bid 5H ended with -1100 (all of them). Still, I am not sure, whether to bid or not next time... I apologize, I used hand generator for the first time and I did not manage to address board vulnerability correctly. As I wrote in the contribution starting this topic - we were vulnerable, the opponents not.

Well, I am not sure, I may take THAT in consideration at bridge table.... :-) But, Okay... all previous bids were pretty fast.. the bidding up to now took something like 15 seconds...

You are vulnerable, opponents not, and your leftie opens the bidding with 4S doubled by your partner. What would you bid after pass from the right with a)xx---1098x---xxxx---xxx b)x---1098x---xxxx---xxxx c)xx---1098xx---xxx---xxx d)x---1098xx---xxxx---xxx e)x---1098xxx---xxxx---xx f)x---1098xxxx---xxx---xx? Could you specify, whether your bid is CP (clear pass), HP(pass with hesitation), HH (bidding hearts with hesitation) or CH (clear heart bid)? This topic represents real headache problem, I (and many others) had yesterday (someone got headache immediately, someone later, after the board :-) ) Thank you

In Prague, the best quality long term IMP competition takes place every Monday in Italska street. There are five levels - from A0 (a group of probably the best six pairs in Czech Republic at the given time)...over A1, A2, A3 (two groups of six pairs at the given level) up to A4 with four groups of six pairs. Every three months, the worst pair from A0 has to drop to A1, from A1 to A2...etc., being replaced with the best pair from lower level. The heroes of this story won A0 level some time ago. It was one of the biggest successes of their bridge life, unfortunately not followed with additional ones. In the next phase, they fell into A1 level and then into A2 level immediately. Even in A2 level, they were not quite successful and they had to win the last match not to drop into A3. The match was pretty tight and it was not quite clear, at any time moment, who is in lead. Several boards before the end, our heroes bid 3NT after a very simple auction 1NT-3NT and the opponent on the lead had in hand QJxx---J108x---10xxx---x. The opponent fell into a very long trance. The dummy became impatient since he was fairly strong smoker and did not have a chance for a while. Finally, he put the cards into the board, said "Help yourself and good luck" to the partner and went out of the room (allowed in this club). After several minutes he want back looking at the teammate and rivals holding the cards for the next board. "How did you finish?" asked to his partner. "Well, one down" said the declarer of the last board sulkily (joking, not admitting that the "previous" board is still in play, since the the first lead has not happened during all the time, the dummy was smoking). "You got small heart as the first lead, did not you", said the dummy sadly with understanding. That was finally some clue for the unhappy first leader! He led small heart immediately and the contract was one down after several dozens of seconds...

[hv=d=n&v=b&n=sqj1043ha963djcqj2&s=s87hq87dakq7ca1063]133|200|Scoring: IMP[/hv] The bidding (E-W passed) North----------South ----.................1NT 2C..................2D 3H(1)...............3NT (1) - Smolen, 4 hearts, 5 spades, GF The lead is D9. You take you trick with jack in the dummy and play CQ, which holds the trick (C4 from your right, C8 from your left - the opponents play udca, if they would like to show count) (would you play something else in the second trick?). How to continue to have the best chance to made the contract (which is obviously very good at the first look)?

Okay, but could I show my hand? 3 spades would have been GF in most natural bidding systems (and I do not think, I have such hand), 3 hearts would have indicated better fit than I actually had and would not have informed about defensive values in minors...

I did not mean the first problem and initiation of discussion about usefulness of relay bidding. I was curious, How many contributors will select diamonds as the trumph suit (with 7-2 guaranteed) and how many clubs... Normally, the suit with most potential trumphs is selected, but there are many exceptions. Here, the matter is more complicated with pretty weak clubs in the hand... but, on the other hand, two small diamonds in the opposite hand can bring many situations with 5 clubs made and 5 diamonds set... I do not think, 3NT should be selected as the final contract...

In my opinion, I (North) can not even think about passing 3C. There are many South's hands with a pretty reasonable chance to made 4H. The truth is that there are more reasons for passing 4C. Still, the game can be made, partner will not support my H even with H dubletton. And I am not sure whether the (immediate) 2H overcall is appropriate. It seems to me that it can lead to the same problems as 3C bid of my partner, because I may show stronger hand than I have actually. Last but not least, 2H bid may cost a trick after partner's first (heart) lead and I may not have entry to cash my H suit in NT contract played by the opponents.

Thank you very much. I was sitting north. And your reasoning was exactly that I made myself. :) :)

Okay, I may agree that relaying does not help very much in this case. But I can not see any way, how to say my partner... okay, I have 7 diamonds just with ace (pretty nice value, but no other honeur), I have four clubs (what may be nice fit to your 5 club suit, if you have it) - but just led by the ten, I have void in hearts and another key value - spade ace. All this info is crucial, if partner should decide about the contract. Eventually, I think that I should decide about the contract, because I know much more about my unbalanced hand, I can ever say my partner during the auction.

IMPs, teams, nonvulnerable against vulnerable... North: ..... KJ-----QJ96542----743----------3 South: .... 753----void---------652----KQJ10962 The bidding was: West-------North-------East-------South 1NT(1)-----pass-------2H(2)-------3C pass--------3H----------X(3)-------4C X(4)--------4H----------X(4)-------pass (1) - weak NT, 12-14 (2) - transfer to spades, unlimited (3) - for take out (4) - for penalty. 5 down, -1100, -450(4 spades with overtrick) at the other table, -12 IMPs. Who should be blamed? N-S use "usual" defence against weak NT - double 14+, 2C = Landy, rest - "natural".

Two problems. Problem 1. Contract selection with good(?) info. IMPs, both lines vulnerable, you have Ax---void---A1097xxx---1097x Your partner opens with 1NT (15-17). From the next relay bidding sequence , you know that partner has 4-3-2-4 distribution. Do you prefer 3NT contract, 5 clubs contract (played from your side) or 5 diamonds contract (played from your side)? Problem 2. Contract selection with not that good info... IMPs, only opponents vulnerable, you have A10862---J85---AQ---865 and the bidding is LHO------partner------RHO-------you ..............1H(1).........2NT(2)----X(3) 5D--------5S-----------6D---------?? (1) --- Standard American, 12-20, 5+H (2) --- 5+-5+ in minor suits, "weak" or "strong" (3) --- 8+PC, more defensive than "to play" values, "small" fit in H posible... What do you bid?

Sometimes, using specific bidding methods, you may have very specific problem, the rest of the tables is not confronted with (just because of bidding naturally)... Both lines vulnerable, you have this "nice" hand 8---AKJ85---KQ8543---3 and LHO opens the bidding with 14-16 NT doubled with your partner (D.O.N.T., one-suit hand, usually 6-cards, colour unknown, strength unknown, limited by elementary safety requirements from the lower side and by an eqivalent of 15 points from the upper side). RHO bids 2 clubs - weak - to play. What is your bid?