funniest system i played on BBO was acromymed PHICS ( Pass Hearts 1club Spades ) pass was 8+ 4H + 1C was 8+ 4S + 1D was a long minor or fert (0-7 bal) 1H 1S were 5-5 0-7 1NT was 0-7 w/C or bal 8-11 2C was multi (weak D or STR) and 2D to 2N were ehaa 0-7 transfers greatsest sequence was Pass (hearts) P 3H preemptive usually 1 or both opponents quit the table at that time. Noodle