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NO i find it very interesting, i never knew how to bid on the high levels to reach a slam , i'd like to learn from other opinions than open a book because i"m very lazy . I'm really interested to know the answer to my questions posted before.

And if u invite with 5♥ having x trump, what is the meaning of 5cl/5d/4sp? And how do u act when u have some heart support and need a cue? let's say spade? What are your agreements? Added: how will decide your partner to pass/ not pass 5h?

Man but your partner may have Kx spade and u go down 6H what 's the problem with u all? Did i misread it and the opening was 1CL? Wow!!

Sir, When my partner bid a game red vs white and i have 6 trics in my own hand i don't care of playing on the level 5. My only problem is to count losers, and if there are 2 then we will play it on the level 5. Of course i don't know a method to ask the shortness spade or the control ( Kx or Ax) in that special case. That's why im still waiting for our dear friend mrAce to elucidate that question and let us take advantage of his fascinating and definitely worth knowing.:blink:

Playing teams on bbo, i have seen many times turkish players bidding with that and making the contract. Just for curiosity., red vs white , imps, will u pass so "easy"? I agree to pass but let's say " sadly pass" lol.

1♠ If i am in good mood may open 4 but now i am tired

[quote name='nige1' timestamp='1312948141' post='567297' IMO ♣Q = 10, ♣T = 9, ♣7 = 8, ♥A = 7, ♦Q = 6, ♠2 = 5. [/hv] The poster exceeded my expectations : i got 5 points for a spade lead hurraaaa!!

♣ 3 Kings 10 points, xx in ♣ with a vulnerable and perhaps balanced 1♥ opening !! And u don't wanna try to suggest a penalty? U want to work for 140 instead of 200? Wow what a bad defender u are...

:P

Annie, are u OK Annie...?

Now the 5clubs bidders can try to count the downs on that funny contract Of course the 4cl bidders would pass 4♠ and lose only 450 . Doubt if 2d is a sane bid but anyway as long as u bid 3cl, 3d or whatever on the level 3 u cannot stop 4♠ and u dont have guns for 5 If i were S i would bid over my own 4♦ lol. But at least the 4♦ bidder was the first person at the table who had any idea where to play the hand. :D Edit: Man! if u make 3♥ with this ***** ajxxx axxx vulnerable against not!! how many do u make with a sane 2h bidding?!

I'm finally able to see this post with new eyes :P

Bleah. Being very imaginative i may think to bid 5h(not 4)but that doesn't help me to play the slam when it is right. Experts may have methods for such offensive hands. I lose that board but u lose many many others.

Cannot go passive. Any passive lead will give the contract (10♣ is not at all passive). Ok i want to lead spade because none doesn't like)).But the second choice is the su..club.

I don't understand why we should take in calculus only that shape : 5 clubs to partner. Partner needs exactly one card: the k♥ to have an entry (not the queen). Responder may have 1-5-3-4 or 0-5-4-4 and i can see no more than 2 trics in diamonds (j10xx to partner is possible). Will be nice to lead your ten and to clear 4 trics in club. I wonder why the opener didn't start with 1NT. Balanced 5-3-3-2 15 hcps. Because of the weakness in spade? Ok i know! u can bid 2nt with 5-1-4-3 but that leaves partner with 5 hearts and then less clubs. I would credit W with good hearts (with at least K) for his 2h bidding (instead of 1NT). Is not against the odds to bid 2h w/o ak? Why not bid 1NT? Yea i'm a goof but i like to stay outside most.

And what is your plan now, when your "not maniac" partner says he has spade control bidding 6♥ ? Ah! U are dummy. U will not suffering the offend to receive a spade lead to the ace and to get ruffed at the second tric (or Kx is not control?). Or u have any method (over 5♥) to get to 6NT? :wub:

If u play against a person who passes a number of spades (and u are not advised :P ) then is natural to X at the 4 level and get "the bonus"))) And of course u tend to pass with 12 but get excited to bid them at the 4 level over 3 spades. TD should be called.

X

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nige1 says: IMO 5♣ = 10, 3♣ = 9, 3♦ = 8, 4♣ = 7. If partner is forgetful then 3♣ may be enough. That may even allow you to bid ♥ later. But, otherwise, 5♣ (cutting out 4[sP}) is a fair temporising move :) So u decide to suicide yourself in 5♣ when 4♥ makes and u can beat 4♠ if partner has let's say k♠ and on a ♦ lead u get 2 ♠ trics? wow!!

lol

I bid 4♦ (but i am known as overbider) :D Anyway is better than let opps to bid 4d or 3spades. What if LHO has an weak 6(7)-4 ♦-♠ and the opener has 5♠?

Dint think too much but i suppose on club lead I need to clear diamonds and if i lose 2 ♦ they will back club again and again (even ruff-sluff) and ill have troubles with clearing the heart suit for 10 trics. Of course makes with 3-2 spades , with k♥ onside etc etc... I bid hearts because i was a monk :D

Hm can i suggest that simple assumption : Having only Ax in ♥ and only 3 clubs u have not communications with your partner. Why do u think declarer will need more than one ♥ tric to make the contract? He takes his trics in minors (ducking a club) then his k♥ so now we count: 4♦+1♥+2♣ and then he plays 10♠ to you and waiting for the last 2 trics in spade. What else ? U need exactly K♥ to partner, i need only a J-x or 9-x or even j single in ♠ and some stopper in heart. :D