Pete's left out that a different pair of the A team who hadn't heard this ruling then got done in the next set by EXACTLY the same sequence, and it still wasn't up to strength (flat 10 count or some garbage) even though we'd talked to the offending pair about the hand Pete has described above. This time our guys assumed 3C was pre-emptive and ended up going for 800 because they thought they'd been pre-empted out of game.