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Can you explain how you get the entries to ruff spades?

[hv=pc=n&s=sk742hkq74d92cj74&n=sthaj85dak8643cqt&d=n&v=0&b=1&a=1dp1hp3hp4hppp]266|200[/hv] IMPs scoring. W leads ♣A, then ♠A, then a small ♣ to East's king. After that a low ♠ is returned. (I was playing with 3 robots, if that matters.) My plan: rise K, play 2 rounds of diamonds and ruff a third round hoping to establish the suit. This plan works if: 1. W has 3 diamonds and E has 2, trumps not 5-0, or 2. W has 2 diamonds and E has 3, in which the 3rd round must be ruffed high. so this needs trumps 3-2 Anyone has a better line?

One more comment I have about hand 1: After I pull 2 rounds of trump, playing the ♠Q is pretty much playing for the ♣A to be with W. If you want to play for the ♣A to be with E, you should pull all the trumps and then play ♠Q. So yes, after the second round of trump, you're forced to guess who has the ♣A.

Hand 2 seems a lot more tricky than hand 1. This is my (probably futile) attempt: If W has a singleton ♣ that isn't the K there's a good chance he'll lead it, so I assume otherwise. I win trick 1 in dummy and play a low club to the Q. Case 1: the finesse wins. I assume the ♣K is onside. (If a highly skilled defender knows how to hold up I'll concede.) Now take a trump finesse. If it's onside you tend to make +1 most of the time quite easily. If it's offside: -If a spade is returned, win A and ruff the losing spade in dummy, cash all top trumps in dummy, then take the clubs finesse again. -If a club is returned, take the finesse, pull trumps, you get your 10 tricks -If a diamond is returned, I'll duck (though I don't think it really matters). Can always win the 3rd round of diamond and then pull trumps. So when the ♣ finesse works you usually make.... Case 2: the finesse loses. Once I get on lead I cash ♥A and play a ♦ to K. If that loses I can only hope that the trump Q is onside. If it wins I now play a trump from hand, taking a finesse this time. If this finesse loses I'll have to ruff a ♠ high and pull the trumps, then cashing the ♣ to make. Conclusion: among the 3 things, ♣K, ♦A, ♥Q, if one of them is onside I make most of the time, but if all are off I lose. Anyone has a better line?

Hand 1: First count tricks. We have 4 hearts and 5 diamonds, for a total of 9 top tricks. The 10th trick can come from knocking out ♠A or if the ♣A is onside. However, there is the threat of risking a ♦ ruff, the lead looks like a singleton. Taking this into account, I would play this way: After winning the first diamond trick, I cash ♥A and then ♥J. If trumps are 3-2 simply pull all the trumps and then play a ♠. If E discards on the second round of trump, I switch to the ♠Q immediately. If E wins and plays a small ♣, well this is where it gets tricky. I'll take a bet that the ♣A is with W, and duck. If W wins with the ♣Q (or J), and he holds the ♣A, then there is nothing he can do except to cash the A and there is no way he can get his ruff. However, if E holds the ♣A then another club would put the lead back to E and then he can get a ruff. Indeed, if E holds the ♣A, he could have done something different: play a ♦ to give W a ruff, and then get in on the ♣A to give W another ruff. So I assume that by switching the ♣, he doesn't have the A (is that sound?). I would think this hand is really about who you think has the ♣A. Just my try on the hand.

I feel that pass is an interesting option. One advantage is that opponents may stop in 4♦ when 5♦ is making. Bidding tends to push them higher.

[hv=pc=n&s=sq86h76d85cajt943&d=n&v=e&b=9&a=2h(11-15%2C%20%5B43%5D15%20or%204414%20or%204405)3d]133|200[/hv] The 2h opener shows a 11-15, and a 3-suiter short in diamonds(4315, 3415, 4414 or 4405). I know that each side has a 10-card fit. Now what? Partner will seldom act in this auction since I know much more about his hand than he knows about mine. Edit: Anyone going for pass or 3nt? Edit 2: This is IMPs scoring, if it matters.

Ah, yes. I know, the primary purpose of having a trump suit is to act as a stopper. And the stopper is only effective if we can ruff. I need to consider ruffing value as well. 4333 and 4333 belong into NTs and not the 8 card fit, right?

As a beginner, one of the first few rules I learnt is that 4M works better than 3N in the presence of an 8-card fit or better. However, as I gain experience, I realise that quite often, that only 9 tricks are available whether I play in major or NTs. Or worse still, sometimes I can only make 8 in a trump contract but 9 in NT. My question here: How to identify such situations? What is the general type of hand for this? I have identified one type; where the bidding shows that the opps have unbalanced hands and they are likely to take an early defensive ruff. What else?

I presume this is a short club, this may be a large part of your issue here in recognising the double fit, but what would 3♣ show over 2♠ by your methods ? I use that as long suit trial bid. As for my minor suit openings, 1m promises 3, 1♣ with 3-3, 1♦ with 4-4 or 5-5, else longer minor.

true. i didnt bid the 2♠, my partner did. anyway, if N really bid 3♠, S is most likely to make a game raise, with the same result.

[hv=pc=n&s=skqj8h762d87caj63&w=s974hk94dkjt65c84&n=sat32hajd2ckqt952&e=s65hqt853daq943c7&d=n&v=e&b=9&a=1cp1sp2sp3sp4sppp]399|300[/hv] At some tables E overcalled in ♦, some used michaels to show the red 2-suiter. Sitting south, I played the hand for +480. 4S+2=480 at 5 tables, 5Dx-2=500 at the other 1 table. Nobody bid the slam. N/S had 25 points in total but the slam is cold. Why? Is is because of the double fit? I evaluated my hand as simply invitational here. N is a minimum opener. So now, how to bid the hand a) if the opps simply pass throughout B) if the opps compete in ♦

Yes, I have learnt about those hand evaluation methods. I also learnt about trial bids (both long and short) to determine which are the relavant honors and which are not. KJxx opposite a void is hardly worth anything, and is sometimes no better than xxxx.

Wait, so 3♦ is an artifical bid and says nothing about the suit? And what if S accepts the invitation and replies in 4♥? What do you bid? "4-card support and 2 aces is always a Limit Raise for me." I want to clarify what you mean here. Do you make a limit raise here in competition or do you still make the limit raise when RHO passes?

So this shows an invitational hand, while 3♥ is simply competitive?

What exactly is 3♦ here? Second suit?

"#Q2 If 5C comes to South, South should not X, he has xxxx in trumps, his trump length (without any ruffing values) is useless, the length gurantees 2nd round control of clubs - even xxx would gurantee this, they have 9 trumps, you have 3, how many has opener?" South can lead trump whenever he is on lead to reduce their ruffing value; holding the pointed aces doesnt make it too hard to gain the lead. I dont really see the problem of the penalty X over 5♣. "#Q3 South will show an Ace not being the Ace of clubs => 6H, if South has AKxx in clubs, he will show 0 Aces". What I was trying to mean here is that 5♥ probably fails. No dummy entries if they lead trump. If S has Axx xxx xxx Qxxx does the small slam make? I see 2 ♦ losers. #d competitive, not invitational. Then what can I use as invitational? #f matter of agreement, to play will be the most common agreement why play 3nt when holding the major? What do you exactly mean by in between raises?

This is what I understand about competitive auctions with both sides holding a fit. 1. The single raise has the same meaning as it would without the overcall. 6-9 points. 2. There are 3 main types for the opener to show: competitive, invitational, and game-going. Holding a slam like this is rare. 3. Opener's main aim is to find out how much of responder's values is wasted in clubs. Give responder xxx xxx xxx AKxx and while a single raise is still suitable, game might not even make if the opps lead trump and trump splits 3-1 or 4-0. And now, what does the following show? a. Dbl, penalty? b. Pass, not willing to compete further? c. new suit. shows a second suit? cuebid? d. 3♥ is competitive/invitational for me. is that practical? e. 4♥ is obviously a sign-off. may be pre-emptive. f. What is 3nt? to play? Is 4♣ a cuebid, or does it ask for a cuebid? What does this mean exactly? Shortness? If north bids 4♣ and east comes with 5♣, south would probably X for penalty. now as north, do you sit for 5♣x or pull to 5♥ (which partner will probably pass). "5♣ exclusion keycard." Then E will pass, now what to do if S shows 1 pointed ace? Do you bid 6♥? As mentioned above, what if responder has xxx xxx xxx AKxx? And let's say you manage to bid the grand. After a ♣ opening lead, you ruff trick 1, and play the ♥A on trick 2, revealing a 3-0 trump break, 3 with east. How to play ♦ for no losers? Who to play for the queen?

[hv=pc=n&s=sa63ht752da4c8632&n=sk2hakq964dkjt63c&d=n&v=0&b=1&a=1h2c2h3c]266|200[/hv] What do I bid here?

card symbols? use ! and the first letter of the suit !c=♣ !d=♦ !h=♥ !s=♠ There is also !n to show NT in a special font.

Well, currently I use some truscot-like defense against strong club. p = showing some strength. X = black suits 1♦=pointed suits 1♥=majors 1♠=garbage hand, not suitable for anything else 1N=rounded suits 2♣=minors 2♦=red suits 2M=weak 2 in the suit bid, reasonalbe suit or else 1♠. 2N=extreme 2-suiter 3-level and higher shows single-suiters with reasonable suits. follow rule of 2 and 3. I normally only use X, 1♦ and 1♥ with good suits (normally 5-5), otherwise I simply bid 1♠. With a weak-2 in a minor suit I bid 1♠ too. So, my 1♠ does not reveal any hand shape. I just hope I dont get doubled in 1♠, though that is unlikely. Most strong club players do not try to X when the opps overcall 1♠ or 1N. Even if they do, I use 1N to show a balanced hand, and simply asks partner to bid his best suit. There is a chance that this doesnt work, but that is highly unlikely. With 3-suiters I choose my 2 best suits. I do these following the 2 main principles of defending against strong club. 1. Once I reach the 2-level, I have essentially neutralized their system advantages. I seldom bid at the 3-level. 2. I have to bid at least 1♠ to be able to take away any space from the opps. X gives them 2 step, 1♦ gives 1, 1♥ does not give or take, but I need to bear in mind they have a cue-bid. Think my 1♠ bid fits well into these objectives, since it does not show any distribution and they have no cues. Need some comments on the weaknesses of these. I am aware that the responder has cuebids, since I have shown my suits precisely. Anything else? Now back to the topic. Does this work against strong pass? Use pass as strong, and now 1♣ to be the same as my X above? But now, since they open with a pass, 1♣ takes up 1 bid, 1♦ does not give or take, 1♥ takes away 1 step, and 1♠ would take away 2. Then should I adjust my "fert" overcall to 1♥? Or can I just leave it at 1♠? For the exact opposite reasons, I find my defense to strong club failing against strong diamond ones, since 1♠ overcalls are nowhere as effective. With those I just pass with weak hands. Use 1♠ to show something stronger. Now calling 1N is more dangerous as 1♠ since I normally make use of 1N to ask partner to bid his best suit to avoid playing in a 4-2 misfit.

How do I join the BIL?

"If they 'open' a pass bid as much as you can as fast as you can." Something like defending against strong club systems like precision?

Alright, I was just asking if I needed one. Since your answer is a clear "no", then I wont continue this topic.