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1♦- 11- 16 2+♦- 1♥ 7+ hcp.4+♥- 2♣art. forcing for round- 2♥ waiting probaply 5+♥- 2♠ strentgh in spades- 3♣art. asking stopper 4♦long suit, no ♥,no ♣stopper- 5♦with agony but KJ in ♦must be useful 2♠r not a suit cause it would have been bid instead 2♣, KJ in♦with void in ♠covers only 2 losers and prd has them at least 4 cause opening was not 1♣ artifical and strong, otherwise opener has shown as strong as possible. Not very convincing i know, but thats our system :rolleyes:

4C set trumps, now prd bids 4D so far so good; and now comes the tricky part; with no H control my next bid shld be 4S if i could be sure that C has agreed as trumps. 4S asks prd to show H control some way if he/she has it; rest has been taken care of already, i.e prd shld ask aces. In real life prd probaply passes to 4S ( just kidding, but it is a possibility, believe me, especially if u r not a regular partnership). So the other hair raising possibility is Blackwood or RKCB( better).

1S was unfortunate, 2C and then spades and this would be easier, or then not, who knows. But what is done is done, water under the bridge and things like that. Im not an expert in standard american, but i take 3H as an reverse and round force at least, according to that i bid 4C as game forcing. Im going to a slam, which one, i dont know yet, but if prd bids hearts again its 6H. 6S is not a option since prd can support us next round with Jx or something like that. 6H, 6C or 6Nt r still available.

Two things, is 3S forcing after opponents have dbl prd 3D pre-empt in my sys. Answer is no... forcing to what? 4D? I cant see the point in that sry, if u can enlighten me in this pls do so :) . And would i bid 3S over 3D...depends what u mean aggressive style in first hand and what 3S means after dbl, if it means shut up i dont have diamonds yes i would, dont wanna hear 4D though.

Did u remember to say sry to u prd, because u screw up this deal by pulling away his/hers penalty dbl? :rolleyes:

The big question here IMO is that who has all the spades. Can prd bid minor showing dbl with 4 spade cards ? If he can his spades r more like 4 very small ones. Ok why didnt RHO bid spades but instead diamonds? Is he preparing to something, like bidding spades later on in very high level and giving a lead direct bid first in case we compete with our minors to the level they r going to dbl us? Whatever the case is one thing is clear; spades will be bid in next round to at least 3 level, but more likely into the 4 level. Back to my hand; do i want to defend oppos spade contract? Nope, so i must start to make some preparations; i will bid spades my self and level depends on what it will mean 2S could be fine, but it probaply asks for a spade stopper, and that i know my prd has not, or its Q something. 3S must be control showing bid so that will be my choice and on 4S i will bid 5C. What do i do when prd doubles 5S im not sure i can count 1 or less defence tricks in my hand, i probaply bid 6C. Then why all this fuss, why dont i bid 6C straight away? Because i like more scientific approach to bidding; God only knows why :lol:

I`d bid 4C whatever that is, icant bid 4D with a void so i try to find otherways wheter he has/ has not his strength in my void. If his next bid is 4D i`ll bid 4S.

Catchall bid? I dont know what that is, but in my sys situation is now this 1) 2C over 1H was new minor and forcing for one round and prds 2S was fourth suit and forcing to game. My bid will be a simple choice between 1) 2Nt in case i have a stopper in spades and 2)3S in case i dont have stopper in spades and no 3 card H suit nor any extras length in minors. 1) case being the priority.

Did i really bid 3H over my prds 3D, oppsy daisy, well now he tells me with 6D that he wants to play D. oh what i do, since idont know what the heck is going on i think ill pass, and prepare to explain my prd, why i dont support his suits. What is prds second suit? My guess is spades and then 3 card club suit. Why? well opener has spades, 6 of them, i have 1 so there r 6 spade cards hanging around somewhere, and im pretty sure west has only 2 of them.

I would be happier if i knew how the bidding has gone, but i guess u have checked and dbl checked u aces and spade controls so west knows what he is doing. He is not trying to give his prd a ruff aka. his spades aint that long, how can he overcall them then? There r many reasons for that but my guess is he has a diamond suit as well. Q of hearts? my guess is a lead from a short suit perhaps a singleton, leading Q against slam from QJx is not a healthy move. I would take the ace, pull the trumps and took a heart hook aginst K10; now if west takes that with J of hearts i can always hope that H r 3-3.

Quick pass, so LHO has no time to think his next move, and may do something stupid or very stupid. 3Nt is... idont know what it is, but its certainly not bridge; if prd has running spades he has no side entry or if he has a side entry his spades will not run. Well of course he can have both, but then his opening is not correct. 4S...if im in a situation i have to try something, then yes, but i think its not odds. Pass, and an ethical quick one.

NF constructive...hmm, i guess that if we play such a convention, my spade overcall could have been made with much less than i have now. So what is 2D, its non-forcing so i can pass with the garbage i usually have and that my prd DID NOT want to pass 1S overcall for some reason. What else prd can have, what is 3D? pre-empt? invitational?. Since im not sure, i use the headache convention aka. bid something "useful" and transfer the problem to prd. 2Nt, no extra spade length, no diamond support, no 4 card heart suit, some kind of club stopper and a couple of extra facecard than my minimum is. If we go overboard after that we will discuss about this convention again.

Ok sry, i didnt know how to use that "click" system. I agree first round 3C was not possoble bid, but prd 3D confirms a strong hand yes? Now IMO u dont have a choice, u must bid 4C; suit is too good to hide when u know prd is strong. 3H is stab in the dark; its natural by nature 4+ cards, there is no way prd would understand it as bid which seeks 3Nt. What if 3Nt is u last good spot? Then u got u self a raw deal, but u cant know that and have no way to guess that after 3D bid; u system didnt work out this time, but hey there is no perfect sys in this world.

I dont understand the bidding; is 2C somesort of a strong bid or one of those 2 way.ie. strong any or weak 2 in D. Whatever if 2C is the first one so just strong, i would have bid 3C in first round KQxxxx is alone strong enough for some positive answer. If 2C was the latter case i would have bid 4C to the 3D what else. 3H will be taken as a natural 5- card suit not as something looking for Nt.

Ok i miss the first train in question, but i still try 2 answer the first round question. Tricky hand and i guess there r just bad choices and worse ones. 1D ok that is worst (ok pass is even worse), 2D is wimpy i agree, but it gives prd more room to bid his majors after 3D prd bids 3H and then what, 4C?. If we bid 3S over 3H prd raises us 2 moysian 4S with 3 card support, 3Nt is out of the question and 4C is only marginaly better. 2C creates GF situation and after auction 1C - Dbl- P we r far away from there. And back 2 the actual situation we bid 2C, LHO 3C and prd gave us just what we were asking 4H. What do i do now? Diamonds at any possible level r lottery, my prd has not promised any of them, ok he has diamonds but maybe just 2 of them, spades r also out of the question if pard has both majors he would have bid 4C. I pass and hope for the best, i havent lie a lot with my 2C bid, prd dont have many clubs and i have high cards in his side suits; my trump support aint good but he jumped single handly in 4H so he must have enough of them in case i have only doubleton. Of course in real world he guessed my 2C as forcing and asking for better major, in case i own my kidney to him.

I cant see how 2S could be an alternative, prd has bid twice with his own hand and there is 12 rock solid points in u hand. Ok if prd is distributional and very weak 2S is correct, but that is lottery not bridge. 2Nt shows we had something we r not suppose 2 have if u look our first pass, but it also tells that we dont have much support for majors. What it comes 2 play at least we know how has the face cards in defence.

Thats the problem, if u meant 3H as a splinter u shld be sure its not misunderstood as something else. Now it was clearly understood so. And why not, u need something to show H suit as non-forcing and invitational way in that auction. Is 4H splinter, i would have took it that way, but im not sure what u prd would have done. "And what would u have done wise guy...", two possibilities comes into my mind; 2D if u play NMF and even if u dont i can hardly see a way prd could pass that and 4C it shld be FG cause i can either pass to 2C or use 3C as invitational bid. Now prd can bring his/hers D control alive if (s)he has one and u can cue bid H.

After 3H bid over 2D cue solves one problem, H will be trumps. How old u said he is 85?; ok that solves another problem, im not going to ask aces or controls or anything for that matter. Hmmmmm..... 6H comes into my mind, ill bid that. Oh it went 3 down dbled, i will buy another drink for me and my partner and that will solve that problem, this is a simple game for simple people.

We play a bit different kind of gadget called Stenberg and in our sys it would have go like this; 1S - 2Nt ( actually limit or better but it dosent matter) 3C - 3D ( 3C showed minimum and 3D asks shortness and is FG) 3S - 4D ( 3S denies short suits and 4D showed lowest cue and is invitation to slam) 4S - pass (4S denies control in clubs and pass is very angry one:))

2S is obvious i think. We dont yet know much bout pards hand. He/She may be keeping bidding alive with some sort of 3 suiter or he/she may have some strong hand with or without spades; too good for just an overcall on first round. Its true that our hand cant be much better for 2S bid, but it aint too strong for it either. If there is something else to do in this hand prd will keep on bidding; and there is bonus possibility that opps will keep on bidding they H...slurppp:)

First hand is clear cut case, second one...ok depends on style; i would open 2C but then again thats me:). Fourth one is obviously not u lack both tricks and strength. Thrid one is not 2C opening; why not? because u hand lacks defence. U have 2 outside aces, what do u do when prd dbls 5H bid advocating weak hand and warning u not to bid anymore.? Third hand is 1C opening and fourth hand is textbook namyats some sort.